Re: [atlarge-discuss] As the Chair wishes...

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Ron and all stakeholders or other interested parties and members,

  I think it is clear that with respect to Satyajit, Joanna mistepped.

  It is also clear that Joanna was partly misinterpreting Joop as well.
But she was quite right in that Joop has been in general difficult
and misleading too often to be helpful.

  Those plane members that were elected, have NOT and impossible
or even all that difficult of a job to do.  However it seems that
the confusion has come about in that the Panel members are
stretching out the primary goals into areas that need to be done,
but are not the most important ones to be completed ASAP.
Hence it would seem obvious that focus and direction has been
lost to a degree..

Ron Sherwood wrote:

> Dear Joanna and Satyajit:
>
>     As anyone who has ever participated in any form of democratic leadership
> will tell you, leadership without power is an exercise in frustration.  Our
> panel has been elected to do something that borders on the impossible.  We
> have asked them to take masses of their own time and to do the intellectual
> and physical work needed to create something that has rarely been attempted
> before, let alone achieved.  We have asked them to organize, document, and
> define a Global institution that will represent countless millions of people
> in some two hundred or so different countries and geographical regions with
> a multitude of languages and a million separate cultures.  We expect them to
> not only define and create this entity, but also to populate it in short
> order.  And, we expect them to do this for no pay, while subjecting
> themselves to the whims and criticism of anyone who cares to become a
> member, or even a lurker on the open list.
>
>     The fact that there are good people, willing to undertake such a task is
> something that most of us are extremely grateful for.  To be elected to lead
> this panel, and to make a solid attempt to adequately deal with the myriad
> organizational minutia while transparently dealing with internal conflict,
> has already raised Joanna to the level of heroine in my book.
>
>     Satyajit: Your obvious frustration and the difficulty you are
> experiencing, in getting Joanna to agree with and meet your expectations of
> her, are both understandable.  However, she deserves greater consideration,
> more patience, and much less rancor on your part. There are better ways of
> achieving your WG goals than attacking one of the people who could be most
> helpful to you. Your position on the WG should mean that you are reporting
> to the panel, not the other way around.  If you are going to expect Joanna
> to work for you, I suspect you will find her time limited. That is why the
> WGs were organized in the first place; to dilute and dissipate the workload.
> More importantly, we must all recognize that membership of our organization
> is the holy grail. The less-than-responsible tone of your comments will not
> promote membership.  It is distasteful and embarrassing to read such a
> public display of animosity. Please be more sensitive to the effect that you
> have, on all subscribers to this list, when you engage in a disrespectful
> and unproductive battle of words.
>
>     We have recently seen a number of similar posts and, while frustration
> levels must be expected to remain high in this difficult, formative period,
> it will serve us well to remember the magnitude of the task that has been
> undertaken and to temper our dialog so that comment remains constructive,
> not destructive.
>
> Sincerely, Ron Sherwood
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Satyajit Gupta" <icheckemail@indiatimes.com>
> To: <atlarge-panel@lists.fitug.de>; <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 1:54 PM
> Subject: [atlarge-discuss] As the Chair wishes...
>
> >
> >  Dear Joanna,
> >
> >  I was not well and I informed you of the same BUT I did NOT offer to step
> down as Co-ordinator of the WG on Incorporation & Funding. On the contrary,
> I said I did NOT wish to be replaced when you unilaterally offered to
> replace me.
> >
> >  Simultaneously, I requested you for more information on the Incorporation
> and Funding work already going on which you have not yet bothered to answer
> by replying to my email. This is why I am forced to use the publicly
> archived mailing list and AGAIN request you to keep me informed.
> >
> >  I am only too happy to reply to you publicly if it means that you do not
> get to blatantly distort my words. I shall continue to publicly demand the
> necessary information which neither you nor anyone else has the right to
> withhold!
> >
> >  As for personal attacks on me, I do not even wish to acknowledge them and
> thus get into petty slanging matches which seem to be their forte...
> >
> >  I am very disappointed that the democratic, open and transparent forum
> that we foresaw in the past has failed to materialize.
> >
> >  Remember, an enlightened despot is STILL a despot!
> >
> >  Regards,
> >
> >  Satyajit.
> >
> >
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