Re: [atlarge-discuss] STRAW POLL...

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Walter and all stakeholders or other interested parties and members,

Walter Schmidt wrote:

> On Sun, 8 Sep 2002, Jeff Williams wrote:
>
> > Well no one needs to authorize any member to post a List poll...
>
>    ...but there is such a thing as Mail-List Etiquette

  This depends on who's etiquette  you are referring to.

>
>
> One doesn't TYPE IN CAPS as it is considered shouting.

  I have never considered TYPE IN CAPS as shouting.  I know
very few reasonable people that do as well.  I also might ask here,
in that you just used caps, were you intending to shout in this
remark?  My guess is that you were not.  Hence I hope that
this point is now moot...

> One doesn't
> initiate a Poll on a mailing list without prior acknowledgment.

  Acknowledgment by whom?  What sort of acknowledgment
do you suggest, require, or desire?

>
>
> Talking about email mail-list etiquette - one should take the time to
> remove unnecessary Cc:s, one should take the time to "edit" quoted text so
> it is at a minimum, and when one is "just" agreeing or disagreeing with a
> previous post, there is no need to quote the "whole message."

  I have heard and been ask to do the opposite on this myself so many
times I cannot give you and accurate count.  I also fine this as being
a bit extreme as well in some circumstances as well.  Sometimes
it is necessary to follow the thread well to have all of the previous
responses included so as to not misunderstand, or also to be
misunderstood or misinterpreted.

>
>
> And, no - these are not my "rules." Having posted my first internet email
> in 1978, these are the "rules of the road," taught to me over the last 24
> years by others...

  This is 2002.  The net she is a changing Walter.  Hence such practices
from 1974 no longer apply.  Some of them were good than, but aren't now.
For instance to make a comparison, I don't drive a 1974 automobile regularly,
but I own one that is a 1969 as a collector.  So to go along with such
notions in 2002 as were acceptable or practiced in 1974 would of course
be inadequate in the extreme perhaps...  ???  >;)

>
>
> > If you don't want to...read it, than you can always just delete it.
>
>    ... that is not the point
>
> On a list "of size," a poll request could generate hundreds of messages,
> traffic that can best be handled other ways - and this type of (what is
> sometimes called abusive) action is one reason lists go moderated.

  Moderation is sometimes needed.  Various forms of moderation
for mature lists are necessary.  A list poll is in no way abusive
to me.  So far Walter, you are the only one that has taken issue
with Judyth's list poll.  Hence as I stated in my previous post,
perhaps you should seriously consider using a filter or the delete
key more prodigiously.  >;)

>
>
> After all, polls are one reason we have a forum!

  Exactly right!  >;)  And this list is that very forum.  Hence it would
seem that such a poll as Judyth posted is appropriate in this context.

>
>
> Any poster can create a forum poll, email the list of its existance, and
> thereby keep unnecessary to-the-list traffic to a minimum.

  Ah, but there is no way that that type of poll would be one that every
forum list member could access necessarily.

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