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Re: [atlarge-discuss] Re: FC: Nancy Carter, who is suing Canadian ISP, replies to Politech



All atakeholders or other interested parties and members,

  This entity whatever or whomever it/he/she really is, is NOT a INEGroup

member..

fuddle@canada.com wrote:

> Hello Judith,
>
> As a new member of INEGroup, I must say that I disagree
> with our spokeman on this one.  The views that Judith
> has expressed for the most part do not concern me.
> Although, he does sometimes make some good points, this
> Ineg member does not agree with Jeff Williams on this
> issue.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Tim.
>
> expresso@e-scape.net wrote:
>
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > Without labouring the point, I'd just like to clarify
> > for the Nth time
> > that I am quite content to let others decide what they
> > think of what I say.
> >
> > However, Jeff seems to labour under some kind of
> > misapprehension or prejudice about me, and has added
> > people to the distribution list of his message who may
> > not have any prior knowledge of ICANNATLARGE.ORG so
> > here goes:
> >
> > 1. I am not and never have been interested in running
> > for Secretary of ICANNATLARGE.ORG, nor have I posted
> > anything to say I wanted to do so in the future.
> >
> > 2. I did offer to act as recording secretary of the
> > Outreach Working Group and Jefsey Morfin put my name
> on
> > the subscription page of the WG-Outreach mailing list.
> > Jeff Williams, who is also in that working group,
> > objected and demanded that the position be elective
> > instead. I expressed my willingness to go along with
> > whatever the group wanted but nothing more has been
> > said about it. You can read about that in the list
> > archives for both [atlarge-discuss] and [wg-outreach].
> >
> > 3. I am not now and never have been counted as part of
> > the IT industry (I'm a freelance writer, editor and
> > translator with an interest in the world around me).
> > Whatever Jeff or any other individual may think of my
> > opinions, political or otherwise, is up to them.
> >   However, I have the right -- as everyone does -- to
> > express my opinions and let them be judged by my
> peers.
> > Personally, I do not consider a person who
> > misrepresents what I say and accuses me of what I have
> > not done is one of my peers.
> >
> > I do sometimes wish Jeff would let the 127,000+
> members
> > of his INEGroup speak for themselves. Since I've never
> > heard from any of them, I tend to wonder whether their
> > objections to my existence are as fervent as Jeff's.
> >
> > I also wonder that the "users/stakeholders" he refers
> > to wouldn't realize that each of them could join
> > ICANNATLARGE.ORG and together vote to expel me from
> the
> > membership for voicing opinions they don't seem to
> > like. I myself am not a "stakeholder" in any company
> --
> > just an individual Internet user amongst the 1000+ who
> > have chosen to join ICANNATLARGE.ORG and try to do
> > something useful -- so I presume they could do that if
> > they wanted to.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Judyth
> >
> >
> > At 12:14 -0800 2002/11/07, Jeff Williams wrote:
> >
> >
> > >Nancy and all,
> > >
> > >  Nancy, you comments/observations and statements
> > below adequately
> > >address or correct Judyth's errant and grossly
> > mistaken remarks in her
> > >previous response on this thread.  I also as you
> know,
> > attempted to
> > >steer Judyth in the right direction.  However her
> > contentions and
> > >observations were and do, although wrongly reflect a
> > political
> > >diatribe that is present in the IT segment of the
> > world today.
> > >
> > >  What actually concerns me and our [INEGroup]
> members
> > >and as I understand it, many other
> stakeholders/users,
> > is that
> > >Judyth is seeking a secretariat position for a new
> > fledgling
> > >organization, ICANNATLARGE.ORG which is purporting
> > >to represent any and all interested stakeholder/users
> > of the
> > >Internet.  With Judyth's expressed comments which you
> > included
> > >below, it would seem that such a diatribe or
> political
> > ideology
> > >as she expressed is contrary to the desires of many
> > stakeholders/users.
> > >Hence my obvious concern...
> >
> >
> >
> ##########################################################
> > Judyth Mermelstein     "cogito ergo lego ergo
> cogito..."
> > Montreal, QC           <espresso@e-scape.net>
> >
> ##########################################################
> > "A word to the wise is sufficient. For others, use
> > more."
> >
> ##########################################################
> >
> >
> >
> >
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