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[atlarge-discuss] fuddle@canada.com <--- person, is INEGrou
Just to refresh your memory Jeff, I am now a new member
of INEG Canada.
I was asking you about joining INEGroup a couple of
weeks ago. You said, and I quote:
"if you are interested in joining IENGroup, than that
is a different matter entirely. Of course I will put
you in touch with our membership folks up your way."
Here is the URL:
http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0210/msg01018.html
Well, you put me in touch with those membership folks
and I joined a few days later.
As a new INEG member, I will be following your posts
and emails with interest. But I will speak for myself
when I dissagree with you. INEGroup does not beleive
in any tye of centsorship and all members are alloud to
speak thier minds.
Thank you,
Tim
--
Tim Burlee
INEGroup Canada Member
Domain Registration Division
On Thu, 07 Nov 2002, "fuddle@canada.com" wrote:
>
> Hello Jeff, listreaders and stakeholders,
>
> First of all, I am a member of INEGroup. I joined the
> Canadian chapter of INEG a couple of weeks ago. If
you
> remember, we had a discussion on this list (see
> archives for details).
>
> Second of all, if INEGroup has over 127,000 members,
do
> you know them all PERSONALLY? INEGroup is an
> international organization with chapters all over the
> world. Seriously, you can't claim to know if I am a
> member or not.
>
> Thirdly, I will provide proof of my membership in INEG
> to anyone who requests it (off-list of course).
>
> And in the meantime, as a member of INEGroup, I will
> speak my opinion freely on this list. It is my right
> as an INEG member.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Tim
>
> On Thu, 07 Nov 2002, Jeff Williams wrote:
>
> >
> > All atakeholders or other interested parties and
> members,
> >
> > This entity whatever or whomever it/he/she really
> is, is NOT a INEGroup member..
> >
> > fuddle@canada.com wrote:
> >
> > > Hello Judith,
> > >
> > > As a new member of INEGroup, I must say that I
> > disagree
> > > with our spokeman on this one. The views that
> Judith
> > > has expressed for the most part do not concern me.
> > > Although, he does sometimes make some good points,
> > this
> > > Ineg member does not agree with Jeff Williams on
> this
> > > issue.
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > >
> > > Tim.
> > >
> > > expresso@e-scape.net wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Dear all,
> > > >
> > > > Without labouring the point, I'd just like to
> > clarify
> > > > for the Nth time
> > > > that I am quite content to let others decide
what
> > they
> > > > think of what I say.
> > > >
> > > > However, Jeff seems to labour under some kind of
> > > > misapprehension or prejudice about me, and has
> added
> > > > people to the distribution list of his message
who
> > may
> > > > not have any prior knowledge of ICANNATLARGE.ORG
> so
> > > > here goes:
> > > >
> > > > 1. I am not and never have been interested in
> > running
> > > > for Secretary of ICANNATLARGE.ORG, nor have I
> posted
> > > > anything to say I wanted to do so in the future.
> > > >
> > > > 2. I did offer to act as recording secretary of
> the
> > > > Outreach Working Group and Jefsey Morfin put my
> name
> > > on
> > > > the subscription page of the WG-Outreach mailing
> > list.
> > > > Jeff Williams, who is also in that working
group,
> > > > objected and demanded that the position be
> elective
> > > > instead. I expressed my willingness to go along
> with
> > > > whatever the group wanted but nothing more has
> been
> > > > said about it. You can read about that in the
list
> > > > archives for both [atlarge-discuss] and
> > [wg-outreach].
> > > >
> > > > 3. I am not now and never have been counted as
> part
> > of
> > > > the IT industry (I'm a freelance writer, editor
> and
> > > > translator with an interest in the world around
> me).
> > > > Whatever Jeff or any other individual may think
of
> > my
> > > > opinions, political or otherwise, is up to them.
> > > > However, I have the right -- as everyone does
--
> > to
> > > > express my opinions and let them be judged by my
> > > peers.
> > > > Personally, I do not consider a person who
> > > > misrepresents what I say and accuses me of what
I
> > have
> > > > not done is one of my peers.
> > > >
> > > > I do sometimes wish Jeff would let the 127,000+
> > > members
> > > > of his INEGroup speak for themselves. Since I've
> > never
> > > > heard from any of them, I tend to wonder whether
> > their
> > > > objections to my existence are as fervent as
> Jeff's.
> > > >
> > > > I also wonder that the "users/stakeholders" he
> > refers
> > > > to wouldn't realize that each of them could join
> > > > ICANNATLARGE.ORG and together vote to expel me
> from
> > > the
> > > > membership for voicing opinions they don't seem
to
> > > > like. I myself am not a "stakeholder" in any
> company
> > > --
> > > > just an individual Internet user amongst the
1000+
> > who
> > > > have chosen to join ICANNATLARGE.ORG and try to
do
> > > > something useful -- so I presume they could do
> that
> > if
> > > > they wanted to.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Judyth
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At 12:14 -0800 2002/11/07, Jeff Williams wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >Nancy and all,
> > > > >
> > > > > Nancy, you comments/observations and
statements
> > > > below adequately
> > > > >address or correct Judyth's errant and grossly
> > > > mistaken remarks in her
> > > > >previous response on this thread. I also as
you
> > > know,
> > > > attempted to
> > > > >steer Judyth in the right direction. However
her
> > > > contentions and
> > > > >observations were and do, although wrongly
> reflect
> > a
> > > > political
> > > > >diatribe that is present in the IT segment of
the
> > > > world today.
> > > > >
> > > > > What actually concerns me and our [INEGroup]
> > > members
> > > > >and as I understand it, many other
> > > stakeholders/users,
> > > > is that
> > > > >Judyth is seeking a secretariat position for a
> new
> > > > fledgling
> > > > >organization, ICANNATLARGE.ORG which is
> purporting
> > > > >to represent any and all interested
> > stakeholder/users
> > > > of the
> > > > >Internet. With Judyth's expressed comments
which
> > you
> > > > included
> > > > >below, it would seem that such a diatribe or
> > > political
> > > > ideology
> > > > >as she expressed is contrary to the desires of
> many
> > > > stakeholders/users.
> > > > >Hence my obvious concern...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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> > > > Judyth Mermelstein "cogito ergo lego ergo
> > > cogito..."
> > > > Montreal, QC <espresso@e-scape.net>
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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> > > > "A word to the wise is sufficient. For others,
use
> > > > more."
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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