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Re: [atlarge-discuss] The Point of this
Dear Jeff,
I think it is a very good post. Let me address it the way a few of us try
and what we could to to help.
On 05:17 23/01/03, Jeff Williams said:
I prefer Mayo! >;) But seriously, the most appropriate thing to say
is nothing unless you can back it up with action, and yes that nasty
stuff called MONEY... Taking a poll is not action of any real substance.
Good works, is!
Absolutely true. We have a few good work and money invested in here.
Joop invested in the booth and in the forum. Money and work.
I invested in the DNS and dot-root, too much money and work.
Abel invested a machine in dot-root. Pascal invested 4. Other who
may not want to be disclosed invested 8.
Take a lesson from Gandhi or Martin Luther King
for instance. They went against the trend, and were very successful.
Why? Well they worked VERY hard, put their own MONEY, effort,
and ideas on the line every day until they were successful. In other
words they SACRIFICED...
True. If I keep with Joop and I I know better (but what about
Judyth and Joe's time). Long hours of works.
IN the above vain let me ask you the following and perhaps you can
or should ask yourself these questions in one form or another:
1.) What are any member or any of the members doing on a daily basis
to gather funding for ICANNATLARGE.ORG or any real serious
amount?
Money is not the first thing. It comes after. The first thing is the
decision to do something. Then to start it seriously. Then it money
huntnig becomes a priority. But you have to do in this order (at
least in non-US area [USA might be different because of the tax
deduction practice]) in order to comit yourself vis a vis others.
If you just look for money no one cares. If you do something and
need money to continue, people understand better, may be
more interested and your personal reputation is both engaged
and a waranty. You oblige yourself to suceed.
2.) What can you do to aid in getting the Bylaws written and reviewed
and what are you doing to to get them written?
I think we are a certain number trying to make other understand
and accept that bylaws are of no prirority, but that mission
statement is. So at last we know what we want to be:
- PAC
- a constituency
- a crowed of internet co-owners wanting to be considered.
3.) What are you, the panel, or any other member doing to get
ICANNATLARGE.ORG registered as a legal entity of some
type that is agreeable to the membership?
Lobbying among ourselves so we can proceed as follows:
1. Joop's booth to be used in the simplest way and
properly organised with polling officers and entrusted
the members list (until a decision can be made
about a Membership organization)
2. a list of Members questions to be gathered and
endorsed/rebuilt at least by two panel Members
(to avoid repetitions)
3. to use that questions for a gallup about what Members
want.
4. from this to have the Panel proceeding the same
way to propose a few mission statement alternatives.
5. them to be voted by the Members
6. to proceed according to this mission statement to
know how to proceed in order to incorporate one or
several entities servicing the political, technical and
relational needs of our members.
4.) What are you or any other member doing to get the Articles of
Incorporation drafted?
For too premature. I am delaying as much as I can but I
start asking myself if it is a good thing the Articles of
atlarge/ws to support the @large naming plan.
5.) What recent conferences that have been posted to this forum has
any or most of the members of ICANNATLARGE.ORG attended
in the past 6 months that are relevant to this fledgling
organization?
I just published a 200 pages study over the dot-root project
(in French) and had several meetings, agreements etc. over
that project which is the only one where @large can really
share into the internet governance and probably change it.
Words are useless if they do not end in acts. I am
quite surprised to see the small number of us ready to
enact their words.
Is that because they do not understand our words?
I would accept that in my case, but I am not the only one!
6.) Which or how many members are working (Door Knocking, ect.)
to gather and grow the membership or this fledgling organization.
There are two types of evangelization, of outreach.
By action and by example, most of the people are
oriented to the second one. Action can be by words
of the mouth (as Richard and Bruce are good at) or
by work of the brain/hands (as Joop, Abel, Joey and
myself are more interested in).
I must say that door knocking is somehing which
needs a day to day effort and which needs a doctrine
of what you evangelize. Since we have no doctrine,
we need to propose some actions. I propose dot-root,
I propose multilingual support (IDNs, multilingual
sites, WSIS participation through parallel structures)
as Hans and Jamie do through their organizations.
We have this after noon a General assembly at the
Versailles Chamber of Commerce (20% of the
French economy) for Eurolinc an European
organization relating with the Minc, supported by
Europe, participating into the WSIS, boostrapped
by the French co-founders of the Internet (1970-1980).
This is a true @large spin-off together with fall-outs
of the national ISOC yearly meeting.
jfc
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