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RE: [atlarge-discuss] Election Preparation



Well said Bruce,
Can we reach an accord?
I think probably the e-mail form helps open and transparent communication 
while the other maybe better for reflective voting in our living rooms or 
Internet cafes.
It is a tough call and one that does not require personal attacks which 
this posts points out so well.
Eric Dierker

> Sotiris Sotiropoulos wrote:
> 
> |  I, for one, prefer the forum for these purposes... 
> |  so much more
> |  convenient than downloading the oftentimes huge volume of email  | 
> from this list
> |  (along with the spam that inevitably sneaks in too).  In fact, I  | 
> would say that if
> |  we want to be more efficient and low-bandwidth friendly, we 
> |  stick to the online
> |  forum entirely for these purposes.
> 
> I, on the other hand, prefer the e-mail forum, since I don't have to be
> connected to view messages.  This is important in my life, since
> between work, school and the DAV, I not home very long during the week
> (except to sleep!), and my employer frowns on using the computers at
> work for personal use (and is tracking network usage to curb such
> behavior!). So the e-mail messages give me the freedom to read from my
> PDA when I'm commuting, or from a laptop computer when I'm on the road.
> 
> Bruce Young
> Portland, Oregon USA
> bruce@barelyadequate.info
> http://www.barelyadequate.info
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> 
> |  -----Original Message-----
> |  From: Sotiris Sotiropoulos [mailto:sotiris@hermesnetwork.com]
> |  Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 8:12 PM
> |  To: espresso@e-scape.net
> |  Cc: atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de
> |  Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Election Preparation
> |  
> |  
> |  
> |  
> |  espresso@e-scape.net wrote:
> |  <snip>
> |  
> |  > I've got nothing against forums per se but isn't it time
> |  > we started recognizing that our proto-organization is
> |  > *one* entity whose name, for better or worse, is
> |  > ICANNATLARGE.ORG and which needs to pull together and
> |  > run one election process rather than have one set of
> |  > people on the mailing list and another set on the forum
> |  > while the people who don't hang out in either get left
> |  > out?
> |  
> |  Such "people" have no business among us then, and I bet most of  | 
> them are phonies
> |  anyway, or at best proxy votes for the Benedict Arnolds among 
> |  us.  I'll say it
> |  again, democracy is participatory.  If they don't participate,  | 
> how do we know they
> |  exist, or that they're not simply proxies?  No Judyth, I think  | 
> Joop's proposal is
> |  quite sound.  I, for one, prefer the forum for these purposes...  | 
> so much more
> |  convenient than downloading the oftentimes huge volume of email  | 
> from this list
> |  (along with the spam that inevitably sneaks in too).  In fact, I  | 
> would say that if
> |  we want to be more efficient and low-bandwidth friendly, we 
> |  stick to the online
> |  forum entirely for these purposes.
> |  
> |  Sotiris Sotiropoulos
> |  
> |  P.S.  Judyth, some of us are still waiting for your "proposal"  | 
> for a voting
> |  mechanism, remember?  :-)
> |  
> |  
> | 
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