RE: [atlarge-discuss] ELECTION REPORT

[<bruce@barelyadequate.info>]

Thanks Abel.  Note that, since several people in the past had root access to
ICANNATLARGE.ORG,  Jefsey specifically chose to host the system on a server
that no one in this group has root access to.

Now that you've debunked a lot of suspicions, maybe the conspiacy theorists
among us will quit harping on how the election is being conducted, and
decide what they plan on doing (besides talking!) to further the aims of
this organization after the election! (I doubt it!  So far facts have had
little to do with most of their complaints! Oh well . . .).  :)

Bruce Young
Portland, Oregon
bruce@barelyadequate.info
http://www.barelyadequate.info
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| -----Original Message-----
| From: Abel Wisman [mailto:abel@able-towers.com]
| Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 11:20 AM
| To: 'Atlarge Discuss List'
| Subject: RE: [atlarge-discuss] ELECTION REPORT
|
|
| What program does Jefsey use: Mailman (part of any RH Distro)
| available
| at http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman.html
|
| What does he do with the program, nothing.
| What can he do with the program, well that depends if he has
| root access
| to the machine, but on the surface very little, unless he is hacking
| sendmail, imap and mailman all at the same time (for which he needs
| root), if not, then of every mail that gets send to the "maillist"
| automatically gets fowarded to him, Bruce and Eric.
| This leads to the fact that there are n emails arriving at 3 mailboxes
| (box E B & J).
| These mails are "stripped" of their header to "ensure" anonimity,
| something that went awry as I understand it because ppl do not cut the
| headers out of their reply which in some case leaves a "sender" in the
| body of the mail.
| This now was objected to by some or all of the "watchdogs" who in turn
| requested to get "only the content" of those mails.
| The number of email received by them should equal the n-emails that
| Bruce and Eric are receiving and the content should again "add-up".
|
| At the end of the election the content and totals of all those emails
| received by Bruce, Eric and the watchdogs should match
| Jefsey's totals.
| If not, something is wrong. If they do it all went very well and was
| very transparent.
| Now lets assume that those numbers all match, we now receive
| the tallies
| from the watchdogs or a report that the tallies we received
| from anyone
| are in agreement with their findings.
| Thus ends a turbulent period.
|
| This could all be achieved by a simple "catch-all<>send-all) record in
| sendmail/aliases and a simple perl script but this "handmade
| stuff" with
| a lot of accountiblity along the road and a lot of room for errors for
| fraud does have its charm and more or less reduces the risk of one man
| influencing the vote to a very small number.
|
| To fraud he would have to be the only one with admin access
| to the list,
| add another similar account that copies, hack to code to delay the
| sending or even better to alter the sending and spoof the header so it
| looks it comes from the member, then alter the content when it arrives
| and send it on, in very short time after receiving because
| otherwise the
| header's timestamps will be off.
|
| Now I can explain how to hack it, but I can assure you that
| if that was
| the intent, whoever wanted to do it would have gone with the
| perl script
| and ran a second script with a higher priority to do the
| alterations, in
| that case writing the script would suffice in terms of work.
|
| In all I can only conclude that the comparison to a close, specially
| written engine with no access to it for anyone is a lot different from
| this "simple" method.
|
| Let's just finish this thing and get on
|
| Abel
|
|
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