RE: [atlarge-discuss] méthodes de travail normales,

[<bruce@barelyadequate.info>]

Richard Henderson wrote:

| The risk of people elected by default (just because
| we need to fill
| up 11 places) is a real risk - and therefore it's essential
| that polling is
| used immediately after this election to investigate, verify, endorse,
| qualify, or re-define the outcomes we (the membership) desire
| from this
| election.

That risk will always be present, and the larger we become, the more likely
it will be that members will be elected that a significant percentage of the
membership don't know.  I can live with that as long as it's the vote of our
members.

Please remember that there are so many new names on the candidate's list
because most of the "At Large Who's Who" who were nominated declined to
serve.

| We also need to safeguard the long-term future of this group
| by establishing
| a control over the panel by the membership, so that the panel
| ONLY does what
| the membership tells it to do... the membership should define
| the shape and
| mandate of the new panel; the membership should define the mission and
| objectives of the organisation; the membership should be able
| to exercise a
| veto on specific issues.

I agree.  But then the membership needs to give them the authority to act
within those narrow roles we assign them and *clearly delineate!*

| Almost as soon as this election result is announced, we need
| to call on Joop
| (in the absence of any other Poll) to set a Poll in motion and seek to
| establish the primacy of "bottom up" decision-making in the
| hands of the
| members.

I disagree.  Until we have third parties in place watching his Polling Booth
operate from the inside, to ensure that no one is manipulating it, we should
not use *any* Web-based system for anything more important than informal
polls.  Also, Joop should not be personnaly framing the questions being
asked.  They should be vetted by a Polling Committee or, at the very least,
by a large number of members on this forum.


Bruce Young
Portland, Oregon
bruce@barelyadequate.info
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