Re: [atlarge-discuss] Jeff Holt = JW = Same person; Proof

[Sotiris Sotiropoulos <sotiris@hermesnetwork.com>]

1)  There is both a Grapeland and a Grapevine in Texas (seems Texans 
have a thing for Bacchus!)
2)  Jeff Holt was verified via paypal, which is admittedly not the best 
way to verify a person, but nobody's presented a better option aside 
from Digitial Cerificates.
3)  Who are you exactly?  Are you the same person responsible for the 
Yue Yue Fidget spam?

--Sotiris Sotiropoulos

Tell Taells wrote:

> Listen, some people have mentioned it already, but Jeff Holt is Jeff Williams.  They both have addresses in Grapevine, TX.
>
> Look at the WHOIS for JH's domain:
> ---------------------------------------------
> Registrant:
> J. HOLT & CO. (TEJAS-INFO-SERVICES-DOM)
>   P. O. BOX 909
>   GRAPELAND, TX 75844-0909
>   US
>
> Look at the recent sig file of JW:
> ---------------------------------------------
> Jeffrey A. Williams
> Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 121k members/stakeholdes strong!)
> Contact Number:  972-244-3801 or 214-244-4827
> Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208
>
>
> What are the chances that there are 2 outspoken people, interested in ICANN issues, both named "Jeff", living in the small, small Texas town of Grapevine, TX (population 1,000)?  I think the chances are very small.
>
> Why don't we try sending a registered letter, because I CERTAINLY will not accept Jeff Holt's face-to-face verification.  Sotoris: How was Jeff Holt verified?  I think we may have finally found JW's real name.
>
> If you want to see what the entity/he/she/ called Jeff Williams/Jeff Holt supposedly looks like, check out this dapper fellow:
> http://www.tejas-info-services.com/holt_bio.htm
>
>
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