Re: [atlarge-discuss] correction

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Richard and all stakeholders or other interested parties,

Richard Henderson wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gary Osbourne <gro@direct.ca>
> To: <terastra@terabytz.co.nz>
> > Can you point to one single credible individual who
> > supports your statements Joop? If not, that fails my
> > consensus test quite spectacularily. -g
>
> I'm not sure if I qualify as a "credible individual", Gary (!)

  Good point here Richard!  >:)

> - and by the
> way, thank you for your correction about Arthur Andersen yesterday, I accept
> your point, and it was a weak element in my argument which wasn't necessary
> anyway.
>
> Look, I really feel that Joop deserves recognition for his hard work and
> commitment in the development of our organisation. He wants a strong At
> Large movement with proper representation within ICANN. He has worked to
> this end (as have others) and his enthusiasm was pivotal in getting this
> initiative going.

  I agree that Joop has tried to do much along these lines.  However
as Gary rightly surmised, Joop's positions must meet a consensus
test of some sort.  The only one that I know of is a vote on such
positions by the members.  So far as Gary again rightly indicated
in his post on the issue at hand here, that vote has NOT taken
place.

> As for the details of the statements that have sallied
> back and forth, I'm not getting drawn in. I appeal for us all to draw a line
> under our disagreements and focus very strongly indeed on a few priorities
> after these elections.

  I think that "After the election" may be too late, if it already is already
not to late to focus on which priorities.  Whom do you believe
should set these priorities?  If I read you post last weak correctly,
the members need to decide what those priorities will be or should
be.

>
>
> Our priorities include: Outreach (essential). Systematic charter. Mechanisms
> for membership participation. Strong support for the development of regional
> and local groups. Finance. Rejection of ICANN's AtLarge proposals in favour
> of our own.

  I believe you hit most of them spot on here.  I would list them in order
of importance as follows:

1.) Funding/financing for ICANNATLARGE.COM
2.) Outreach
3.) A charter that has the majority support of the members.
4.) Incorporation or registration as an a legal association.
5.) Gaining support from and for regional and national orgs and
     Individual stakeholders/users.
6.) Rejection of ICANN's At-Large(ALOC/ALAC) proposals
     and/or development and support for our own.
7.) Turn over of the ICANNATLARGE.COM web site BEFORE
     the end of the election.


>
>
> I agree the management, control and administration of the website needs to
> be addressed after the election, but please let's not lose our focus.
>
> Above all, we need to focus on our own agenda : to provide total backing for
> regional and local groups, and to use these groups to "seed" and grow new
> members.

Agreed here.  This agenda must be set quickly, be achievable realistically,
have funding backing, and be determined by the members by vote.

> The really exciting aspect of our organisation is that we have
> hardly even begun. The time is right and we will grow into an organisation
> that gets its authority from the obvious scale and extent of our membership.
> That's our agenda. To say to ICANN: we are not going to go away. We are not
> going to be divided or put off track. We represent more and more internet
> users in every country across the globe. This Internet belongs to all
> humanity. We demand the right to be at the heart of its development, its
> administration, and its future.

  Here here.  IF and WHEN the ICANNATLARGE.COM members
can show clearly that they mean this, than I can almost assure you
that ICANNATLARGE.COM will garner the support of INEGroup,
amongst I am sure a host of other Internet orgs...

>
>
> Richard Henderson
>
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Regards,
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Jeffrey A. Williams
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