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Re: [atlarge-discuss] Point of personal privilege -- I'm being disenfranchised by glitches in the system!
Judyth and all stakeholders or other interested parties,
Judyth, you are not listed as a member of ICANNATLARGE.COM,
and it doesn't seem as though you ever were. ICANNATLARGE.COM
is not the same as ICANN.ATLARGE.ORG which was in existence
in July 2000 as you indicate you became a member of. So I think
you have the two confused... ICANNATLARGE.COM did not
exist in July 2000...
ICANNATLARGE.COM's members are listed at http://www.icannatlarge.com/view.php?sortorder=chrono
espresso@e-scape.net wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> I'm sorry to inflict this on you but I don't know what else to do.
>
> I never got a ballot and when I inquired, was told by both Elisabeth Porteneuve and Alexander Svensson (one of the election watchdogs) that I am not a member of ICANN At Large. Since I have in fact been a member since July 2000, I found that quite distressing.
>
> However, I went through my archives and dug out the original messages from ICANN which confirm my status as a member, assuming that these would be sufficient for the Powers That Be to look into the matter and perhaps even send me a ballot in time.
>
> Unfortunately, I was then very distressed to receive the information that my messages to both of them could not be delivered to their destinations. Since time is of the essence, I hope you'll forgive me for taking up your bardwidth in my efforts to reach somebody who can do something about the mix-up before the polls close.
>
> Thank you!
>
> Judyth
>
> Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2002 05:12:11 +0200 (MET DST)
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> porteneu
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> 550 porteneu... User unknown
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> Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 23:22:52 -0400
> To: Alexander Svensson <alexander@svensson.de>
> Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] REMINDER: VOTE ENDS SUNDAY
> Cc: icannatlarge@dnso.org
>
> Dear Alexander,
>
> Evidently there has been some mistake in the compilation of your membership list. I am sending you a "cc" of my message to Elizabeth Porteneuve in which I have copied the proof that I was indeed a registered member prior to the first At Large election in 2000.
>
> I hope that will be sufficient to clear the matter up and get me my ballot before the voting closes.
>
> Regards,
>
> Judyth
>
> At 10:47 +0200 2002/08/03, Alexander Svensson wrote:
>
> >Dear Judyth,
> >
> >>> Hello,
> >>>
> >>> I have not received my ballot yet. Did you send it? If so, please send ti again; if not, please make sure they do go out before voting is scheduled to end.
> >>>
> >>> Thank you,
> >>>
> >>> Judyth Mermelstein
> >
> >I'm afraid you are not a member of ICANNatlarge.com as
> >far as I can tell from the membership list at
> >http://icannatlarge.com/view.php?sortorder=chrono
> >
> >In order to get a ballot, you need to be a member
> >before the cut-off date; unfortunately, you seem to
> >have missed it for this election.
> >
> >You can sign up as member at
> >http://icannatlarge.com/register.php
> >
> >Best regards,
> >/// Alexander Svensson (one of the election watchdogs)
>
> ---
>
> Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2002 05:11:53 +0200 (MET DST)
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> To: <espresso@e-scape.net>
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> The original message was received at Sun, 4 Aug 2002 05:11:51 +0200 (MET DST)
> from sage.e-scape.net [216.13.52.7]
>
> ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
> porteneu
> (expanded from: <Elisabeth.Porteneuve@cetp.ipsl.fr>)
>
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> 550 porteneu... User unknown
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> Arrival-Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2002 05:11:51 +0200 (MET DST)
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> Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 23:19:37 -0400
> To: Elisabeth Porteneuve <Elisabeth.Porteneuve@cetp.ipsl.fr>
> Subject: ICANN At Large Membership
> Cc: icannatlarge@dnso.org, Alexander Svensson <alexander@svensson.de>
>
> Dear Ms. Portneuve,
>
> When I enquired about my missing ballot, you wrote:
> >Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 09:49:41 +0200 (MET DST)
> >From: Elisabeth Porteneuve <Elisabeth.Porteneuve@cetp.ipsl.fr>
> >To: espresso@e-scape.net
> >Cc: icannatlarge@dnso.org
> >Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] REMINDER: VOTE ENDS SUNDAY
> >
> >
> >
> >I am sorry but neither your name: Judyth Mermelstein,
> >not your email address: espresso@e-scape.net is on the electorate
> >roll for this election.
> >
> >The Electorate Roll of 934 persons is at
> >http://www.dnso.org/icannatlarge/2002.AL-b02-roster.html
> >
> >Regards,
> >Elisabeth Porteneuve
>
> Below you will find a copy of the confirmation message sent to me on 30 July 2000 following my registration as a member of ICANN At Large. It contains both my membership number and password, as well as the full Internet headers which will enable you to confirm its authenticity. I also quote the message of 1 September 2000 which was sent to "Activated Members" so you can confirm that I did indeed activate my membership as required, and the 9 October 2000 final reminder to vote in the first election. I did, in fact, vote in that election and receive the notice of results but my e-mail archiving leaves something to be desired and I have not yet found the disk containing the later messages.
>
> Neither my name nor my e-mail address has changed since that time, nor have I resigned as a member of ICANN At Large, so it is a mystery to me why my name does not appear on your electoral roll.
>
> Would you kindly research this matter without delay since the deadline for voting is tomorrow? I would prefer not to be disenfranchised by a clerical error.
>
> Thanking you in advance for your co-operation,
>
> Judyth Mermelstein
> [telephone number snipped]
>
> << start of forwarded material >>
>
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> Sun, 30 Jul 2000 11:04:37 -0700
> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 11:04:37 -0700
> Message-Id: <200007301804.LAA22995@members.icann.org>
> To: espresso@e-scape.net
> From: newmember@icann.org
> Subject: ICANN At Large Membership
>
> ICANN At LARGE MEMBER ACTIVATION...SAVE THIS EMAIL!
>
> Congratulations, your new ICANN At Large Member account
> has been created. There is just one more piece of
> information you will need to activate your account:
> your unique pin number.
>
> Once your application has been approved, ICANN will mail
> your PIN number to your physical address.
>
> Accessing your At Large membership account will be easy!
> Just use your web browser to go to ICANN
> At Large:
>
> https://members.icann.org/activate.html (Secure Server)
>
> or
>
> http://members.icann.org/activate.html (Unsecure Server)
>
> To activate your account, you will enter your At Large Membership
> number, Password, and Pin. Use the following
> information:
>
> Membership number: 374546
>
> Password: {snipped]
>
> Pin number: Sent via postal service
>
> Save this e-mail for your records. Thank you for joining
> At Large. If you have any questions, please e-mail us
> at: support@members.icann.org.
>
> If you have received this email in error, please send us a
> message with Remove in the subject line at
> support@members.icann.org
>
> ---Message 2
>
> Return-Path: <members-announce@icann.org>
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> Fri, 1 Sep 2000 11:32:09 -0700
> Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 11:32:09 -0700
> Received: by mailhub.icann.org (icann_info v1.12); Fri, 1 Sep 2000 10:09:30 -0700
> To: "At-Large Members" <members-announce@icann.org>
> Subject: [members-announce] UPDATE: ICANN At Large Membership
> Message-ID: <bulk.534.20000901100930@mailhub.icann.org>
>
> To Activated Members, North America region:
>
> (September 1, 2000) The ICANN At Large process is now in the
> member-nomination phase <http://members.icann.org/nom.html>. 50
> individuals are currently candidates for member-nomination in the North
> America geographic region. A list of those individuals appears at the
> bottom of this email. At Large Members are encouraged to examine those
> candidates' web pages, and to consider making an online endorsement.
>
> The deadline for endorsements is 8 September.
>
> To be member-nominated, a candidate must receive the online endorsements
> of 2% of the activated members in his/her region (or 20 members,
> whichever is greater), from at least 2 different countries. Together
> with the 4 North America candidates nominated by the Nominating
> Committee, the member-nominees will appear on the October ballot, up
> to a maximum of 7 total nominees.
>
> Links:
>
> o ICANN At Large homepage
> <http://members.icann.org>
>
> o Member-nomination info
> <http://members.icann.org/nom.html>
>
> o FAQ
> <http://members.icann.org/faq.htm>
>
> o Nominating Committee nominees
> <http://www.icann.org/nomcom/>
> <http://www.icann.org/nomcom/nominations.htm>
>
> How to endorse a candidate:
>
> o You can make an endorsement by logging in
> to the endorsement page via:
> <http://members.icann.org/members_only.htm>
>
> Candidates for member-nomination, North America region:
> <http://members.icann.org/nom/cp/NA.html>
>
> Robert Alberti
> John Alexander
> Karl Auerbach
> Robin Bandy
> Liz Bartlett
> Adam L. Beberg
> Andrew Bloch
> Gerry Boudreaux
> Daniel Bowers
> Frank Boyer
> Terry Calhoun
> Mark Chao
> Daniel Chemko
> Ray Chinn
> Joseph J. Chizmarik
> Andrew Chulock
> Bob Crawford
> Patrick D'Acre
> Mark Diamond
> Kevin Feldman
> Lee Fulmer
> Eric Grimm
> Subhash Gupta
> Edward A. Hand Jr.
> Leland Hardy
> Shlomi Harif
> David H. Heemann
> Alan Herrell
> John Jacobs
> Ralph Kirkpatrick
> Gregory Krajewski
> George Lederer
> Eric Lee
> Thomas Lowenhaupt
> Luke Massey
> Michael McNulty
> Sondlo Mhlaba
> Nick Nicholas
> Harry Palmer
> Dan Parisi
> Captain Ted Phipps
> Neeran Saraf
> Herb Schlanger
> Helmut Schulz
> Barbara Simons
> Christopher Stewart
> Emerson Tiller
> Rick Wesson
> Travis White
> Laurie Williams
>
> # # #
>
> ---Message #3
>
> From: members-announce@icann.org
> Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 17:43:16 -0700
> To: "At-Large Members" <members-announce@icann.org>
> Subject: FINAL REMINDER: Last chance to vote for ICANN At Large
> Status: U
>
> *** FINAL REMINDER ***
>
> (9 October 2000) If you have not already cast your vote, this is your
> final opportunity!
>
> Visit the secure online voting site for ICANN's At Large membership:
> <https://vote.election.com/icann>. To cast your vote, you must provide
> your member number, password, and PIN number -- the same information you
> used to activate your At Large membership.
>
> Voting will continue through Tuesday, October 10, 2000 (closing 12:00
> midnight GMT/UTC). The At Large votes will be tabulated following the
> conclusion of the deadline. Results will be posted as soon as the
> tabulation is complete. Depending on the number of rounds of vote
> tabulation required in each region, the tabulation and posting process
> should take no more than a few hours. Details on the voting tabulation
> methodology are posted at <http://members.icann.org/faq.htm#AVP>.
>
> To learn about the nominees and take part in the Question & Answer
> Forum, visit the ICANN At Large website: <http://members.icann.org/>.
>
> Links:
>
> - At Large voting site:
> <https://vote.election.com/icann/login.asp?lang=E>
> - At Large homepage: <http://members.icann.org>
> - Q&A Forum: <http://members.icann.org/qa.html>
> - FAQ: <http://members.icann.org/faq.htm>
> - ICANN homepage: <http://www.icann.org>
>
> # # #
>
> << end of forwarded material >>
>
> ##########################################################
> Judyth Mermelstein "cogito ergo lego ergo cogito..."
> Montreal, QC <espresso@e-scape.net>
> ##########################################################
> "History teaches us that men and nations behave wisely once
> they have exhausted all other alternatives." (Abba Eban)
> ##########################################################
>
> ##########################################################
> Judyth Mermelstein "cogito ergo lego ergo cogito..."
> Montreal, QC <espresso@e-scape.net>
> ICANN At Large Member No. 374546 since July 2000
> ##########################################################
> "History teaches us that men and nations behave wisely once
> they have exhausted all other alternatives." (Abba Eban)
> ##########################################################
>
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