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[atlarge-discuss] Correction to: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Point of personal privilege -- I'm being disenfranchised by glitches in the system!
Judyth and all stakeholders or other interested parties,
ICANNMEMBERS.COM was the old and now long defunct
ICANN @large that elected Karl A. And Andy M-M.
See correction below in the text of my original response...
Judyth and all stakeholders or other interested parties,
Judyth, you are not listed as a member of ICANNATLARGE.COM,
and it doesn't seem as though you ever were. ICANNATLARGE.COM
is not the same as ICANN.ATLARGE.ORG Correction - <ICANNMEMBERS.COM>
which was in existence
in July 2000 as you indicate you became a member of. So I think
you have the two confused... ICANNATLARGE.COM did not
exist in July 2000...
ICANNATLARGE.COM's members are listed at
http://www.icannatlarge.com/view.php?sortorder=chrono
espresso@e-scape.net wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> I'm sorry to inflict this on you but I don't know what else to do.
>
> I never got a ballot and when I inquired, was told by both Elisabeth Porteneuve and Alexander Svensson (one of the election watchdogs) that I am not a member of ICANN At Large. Since I have in fact been a member since July 2000, I found that quite distressing.
>
> However, I went through my archives and dug out the original messages from ICANN which confirm my status as a member, assuming that these would be sufficient for the Powers That Be to look into the matter and perhaps even send me a ballot in time.
>
> Unfortunately, I was then very distressed to receive the information that my messages to both of them could not be delivered to their destinations. Since time is of the essence, I hope you'll forgive me for taking up your bardwidth in my efforts to reach somebody who can do something about the mix-up before the polls close.
>
> Thank you!
>
> Judyth
>
> Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2002 05:12:11 +0200 (MET DST)
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> To: <espresso@e-scape.net>
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> The original message was received at Sun, 4 Aug 2002 05:12:09 +0200 (MET DST)
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>
> ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
> porteneu
> (expanded from: <epo@cetp.ipsl.fr>)
>
> ----- Transcript of session follows -----
> 550 porteneu... User unknown
>
> Reporting-MTA: dns; balsa.cetp.ipsl.fr
> Received-From-MTA: DNS; dnso.dnso.org
> Arrival-Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2002 05:12:09 +0200 (MET DST)
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> Final-Recipient: RFC822; <epo@cetp.ipsl.fr>
> X-Actual-Recipient: RFC822; porteneu@balsa.cetp.ipsl.fr
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> Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 23:22:52 -0400
> To: Alexander Svensson <alexander@svensson.de>
> Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] REMINDER: VOTE ENDS SUNDAY
> Cc: icannatlarge@dnso.org
>
> Dear Alexander,
>
> Evidently there has been some mistake in the compilation of your membership list. I am sending you a "cc" of my message to Elizabeth Porteneuve in which I have copied the proof that I was indeed a registered member prior to the first At Large election in 2000.
>
> I hope that will be sufficient to clear the matter up and get me my ballot before the voting closes.
>
> Regards,
>
> Judyth
>
> At 10:47 +0200 2002/08/03, Alexander Svensson wrote:
>
> >Dear Judyth,
> >
> >>> Hello,
> >>>
> >>> I have not received my ballot yet. Did you send it? If so, please send ti again; if not, please make sure they do go out before voting is scheduled to end.
> >>>
> >>> Thank you,
> >>>
> >>> Judyth Mermelstein
> >
> >I'm afraid you are not a member of ICANNatlarge.com as
> >far as I can tell from the membership list at
> >http://icannatlarge.com/view.php?sortorder=chrono
> >
> >In order to get a ballot, you need to be a member
> >before the cut-off date; unfortunately, you seem to
> >have missed it for this election.
> >
> >You can sign up as member at
> >http://icannatlarge.com/register.php
> >
> >Best regards,
> >/// Alexander Svensson (one of the election watchdogs)
>
> ---
>
> Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2002 05:11:53 +0200 (MET DST)
> From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@cetp.ipsl.fr>
> To: <espresso@e-scape.net>
> Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status;
> boundary="FAA21177.1028430713/balsa.cetp.ipsl.fr"
> Subject: Returned mail: User unknown
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>
> The original message was received at Sun, 4 Aug 2002 05:11:51 +0200 (MET DST)
> from sage.e-scape.net [216.13.52.7]
>
> ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
> porteneu
> (expanded from: <Elisabeth.Porteneuve@cetp.ipsl.fr>)
>
> ----- Transcript of session follows -----
> 550 porteneu... User unknown
>
> Reporting-MTA: dns; balsa.cetp.ipsl.fr
> Received-From-MTA: DNS; sage.e-scape.net
> Arrival-Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2002 05:11:51 +0200 (MET DST)
>
> Final-Recipient: RFC822; <Elisabeth.Porteneuve@cetp.ipsl.fr>
> X-Actual-Recipient: RFC822; porteneu@balsa.cetp.ipsl.fr
> Action: failed
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>
> Return-Path: <espresso@e-scape.net>
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> for <Elisabeth.Porteneuve@cetp.ipsl.fr>; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 05:11:51 +0200 (MET DST)
> From: espresso@e-scape.net
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> Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 23:19:37 -0400
> To: Elisabeth Porteneuve <Elisabeth.Porteneuve@cetp.ipsl.fr>
> Subject: ICANN At Large Membership
> Cc: icannatlarge@dnso.org, Alexander Svensson <alexander@svensson.de>
>
> Dear Ms. Portneuve,
>
> When I enquired about my missing ballot, you wrote:
> >Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 09:49:41 +0200 (MET DST)
> >From: Elisabeth Porteneuve <Elisabeth.Porteneuve@cetp.ipsl.fr>
> >To: espresso@e-scape.net
> >Cc: icannatlarge@dnso.org
> >Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] REMINDER: VOTE ENDS SUNDAY
> >
> >
> >
> >I am sorry but neither your name: Judyth Mermelstein,
> >not your email address: espresso@e-scape.net is on the electorate
> >roll for this election.
> >
> >The Electorate Roll of 934 persons is at
> >http://www.dnso.org/icannatlarge/2002.AL-b02-roster.html
> >
> >Regards,
> >Elisabeth Porteneuve
>
> Below you will find a copy of the confirmation message sent to me on 30 July 2000 following my registration as a member of ICANN At Large. It contains both my membership number and password, as well as the full Internet headers which will enable you to confirm its authenticity. I also quote the message of 1 September 2000 which was sent to "Activated Members" so you can confirm that I did indeed activate my membership as required, and the 9 October 2000 final reminder to vote in the first election. I did, in fact, vote in that election and receive the notice of results but my e-mail archiving leaves something to be desired and I have not yet found the disk containing the later messages.
>
> Neither my name nor my e-mail address has changed since that time, nor have I resigned as a member of ICANN At Large, so it is a mystery to me why my name does not appear on your electoral roll.
>
> Would you kindly research this matter without delay since the deadline for voting is tomorrow? I would prefer not to be disenfranchised by a clerical error.
>
> Thanking you in advance for your co-operation,
>
> Judyth Mermelstein
> [telephone number snipped]
>
> << start of forwarded material >>
>
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> for <espresso@e-scape.net>; Sun, 30 Jul 2000 11:12:29 -0700
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> Sun, 30 Jul 2000 11:04:37 -0700
> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 11:04:37 -0700
> Message-Id: <200007301804.LAA22995@members.icann.org>
> To: espresso@e-scape.net
> From: newmember@icann.org
> Subject: ICANN At Large Membership
>
> ICANN At LARGE MEMBER ACTIVATION...SAVE THIS EMAIL!
>
> Congratulations, your new ICANN At Large Member account
> has been created. There is just one more piece of
> information you will need to activate your account:
> your unique pin number.
>
> Once your application has been approved, ICANN will mail
> your PIN number to your physical address.
>
> Accessing your At Large membership account will be easy!
> Just use your web browser to go to ICANN
> At Large:
>
> https://members.icann.org/activate.html (Secure Server)
>
> or
>
> http://members.icann.org/activate.html (Unsecure Server)
>
> To activate your account, you will enter your At Large Membership
> number, Password, and Pin. Use the following
> information:
>
> Membership number: 374546
>
> Password: {snipped]
>
> Pin number: Sent via postal service
>
> Save this e-mail for your records. Thank you for joining
> At Large. If you have any questions, please e-mail us
> at: support@members.icann.org.
>
> If you have received this email in error, please send us a
> message with Remove in the subject line at
> support@members.icann.org
>
> ---Message 2
>
> Return-Path: <members-announce@icann.org>
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> for <espresso@e-scape.net>; Fri, 1 Sep 2000 14:29:39 -0400 (EDT)
> (envelope-from members-announce@icann.org)
> From: members-announce@icann.org
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> by mailhub.icann.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA01650;
> Fri, 1 Sep 2000 11:32:09 -0700
> Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 11:32:09 -0700
> Received: by mailhub.icann.org (icann_info v1.12); Fri, 1 Sep 2000 10:09:30 -0700
> To: "At-Large Members" <members-announce@icann.org>
> Subject: [members-announce] UPDATE: ICANN At Large Membership
> Message-ID: <bulk.534.20000901100930@mailhub.icann.org>
>
> To Activated Members, North America region:
>
> (September 1, 2000) The ICANN At Large process is now in the
> member-nomination phase <http://members.icann.org/nom.html>. 50
> individuals are currently candidates for member-nomination in the North
> America geographic region. A list of those individuals appears at the
> bottom of this email. At Large Members are encouraged to examine those
> candidates' web pages, and to consider making an online endorsement.
>
> The deadline for endorsements is 8 September.
>
> To be member-nominated, a candidate must receive the online endorsements
> of 2% of the activated members in his/her region (or 20 members,
> whichever is greater), from at least 2 different countries. Together
> with the 4 North America candidates nominated by the Nominating
> Committee, the member-nominees will appear on the October ballot, up
> to a maximum of 7 total nominees.
>
> Links:
>
> o ICANN At Large homepage
> <http://members.icann.org>
>
> o Member-nomination info
> <http://members.icann.org/nom.html>
>
> o FAQ
> <http://members.icann.org/faq.htm>
>
> o Nominating Committee nominees
> <http://www.icann.org/nomcom/>
> <http://www.icann.org/nomcom/nominations.htm>
>
> How to endorse a candidate:
>
> o You can make an endorsement by logging in
> to the endorsement page via:
> <http://members.icann.org/members_only.htm>
>
> Candidates for member-nomination, North America region:
> <http://members.icann.org/nom/cp/NA.html>
>
> Robert Alberti
> John Alexander
> Karl Auerbach
> Robin Bandy
> Liz Bartlett
> Adam L. Beberg
> Andrew Bloch
> Gerry Boudreaux
> Daniel Bowers
> Frank Boyer
> Terry Calhoun
> Mark Chao
> Daniel Chemko
> Ray Chinn
> Joseph J. Chizmarik
> Andrew Chulock
> Bob Crawford
> Patrick D'Acre
> Mark Diamond
> Kevin Feldman
> Lee Fulmer
> Eric Grimm
> Subhash Gupta
> Edward A. Hand Jr.
> Leland Hardy
> Shlomi Harif
> David H. Heemann
> Alan Herrell
> John Jacobs
> Ralph Kirkpatrick
> Gregory Krajewski
> George Lederer
> Eric Lee
> Thomas Lowenhaupt
> Luke Massey
> Michael McNulty
> Sondlo Mhlaba
> Nick Nicholas
> Harry Palmer
> Dan Parisi
> Captain Ted Phipps
> Neeran Saraf
> Herb Schlanger
> Helmut Schulz
> Barbara Simons
> Christopher Stewart
> Emerson Tiller
> Rick Wesson
> Travis White
> Laurie Williams
>
> # # #
>
> ---Message #3
>
> From: members-announce@icann.org
> Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 17:43:16 -0700
> To: "At-Large Members" <members-announce@icann.org>
> Subject: FINAL REMINDER: Last chance to vote for ICANN At Large
> Status: U
>
> *** FINAL REMINDER ***
>
> (9 October 2000) If you have not already cast your vote, this is your
> final opportunity!
>
> Visit the secure online voting site for ICANN's At Large membership:
> <https://vote.election.com/icann>. To cast your vote, you must provide
> your member number, password, and PIN number -- the same information you
> used to activate your At Large membership.
>
> Voting will continue through Tuesday, October 10, 2000 (closing 12:00
> midnight GMT/UTC). The At Large votes will be tabulated following the
> conclusion of the deadline. Results will be posted as soon as the
> tabulation is complete. Depending on the number of rounds of vote
> tabulation required in each region, the tabulation and posting process
> should take no more than a few hours. Details on the voting tabulation
> methodology are posted at <http://members.icann.org/faq.htm#AVP>.
>
> To learn about the nominees and take part in the Question & Answer
> Forum, visit the ICANN At Large website: <http://members.icann.org/>.
>
> Links:
>
> - At Large voting site:
> <https://vote.election.com/icann/login.asp?lang=E>
> - At Large homepage: <http://members.icann.org>
> - Q&A Forum: <http://members.icann.org/qa.html>
> - FAQ: <http://members.icann.org/faq.htm>
> - ICANN homepage: <http://www.icann.org>
>
> # # #
>
> << end of forwarded material >>
>
> ##########################################################
> Judyth Mermelstein "cogito ergo lego ergo cogito..."
> Montreal, QC <espresso@e-scape.net>
> ##########################################################
> "History teaches us that men and nations behave wisely once
> they have exhausted all other alternatives." (Abba Eban)
> ##########################################################
>
> ##########################################################
> Judyth Mermelstein "cogito ergo lego ergo cogito..."
> Montreal, QC <espresso@e-scape.net>
> ICANN At Large Member No. 374546 since July 2000
> ##########################################################
> "History teaches us that men and nations behave wisely once
> they have exhausted all other alternatives." (Abba Eban)
> ##########################################################
>
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