Re: [atlarge-discuss] Report to the ERC from the ALAC-AG (2/2)

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Judyth and all stakeholders or other interested parties and members,

espresso@e-scape.net wrote:

> At 00:41 -0400 2002/08/23, Sotiris Sotiropoulos wrote:
> >eric@hi-tek.com wrote:
> >>  I am sorry but but people must read to use the internet,
> >> except here in the US where for free we offer services for blind and
> >> illiterate. I doubt they do elsewhere unless it is someone like me in a >> remote Internet cafe with an interpreter writing messages to children for
> >> grandparents.
> >
> >Obviously you know very little about Canada and what living here is all about.
> >America may have the reputation, but Canada is truly the best country in >the world to live in!
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> Without in any way disagreeing with Sotiris (I'm a proud Canadian, too), I should mention that services for the blind and illiterate are priorities for NGOs in many parts of the world. Obviously, increasing literacy is one of the things the Internet can do for people; however, there are ways to present information graphically for those who read little or not at all. There are also text-to-speech and speech-to-text applications to help the visually impaired, touchscreen applications that can be used with a mouthstick by the armless or paralyzed, and even some experimental work involving input by eye-movement alone.

  The commercial side of the Internet has and does do an awful lot for the
sight impaired.  Believe it or not Microsoft is one of the leaders in this area...
Hewlet Packard is another...  And for free BTW...

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> Most of these things require that somebody with deeper pockets make the necessary equipment and software available to people whose financial resources are limited. Apple Computer has been actively involved in making applications to assist the disabled since it was founded. Its basic operating system has, for many years, included utilities for people with low vision or physical disabilities. Development of other types of accommodations by other companies have resulted in specialized hardware and software that many people use today. Cost is the single biggest obstacle, with lack of knowledge of what can be done a close second.
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> As for the literacy question, obviously the goal of spreading literacy (and computer literacy) is a big one. Initiatives in this area tend to be local or regional rather than national, and are usually left to NGOs (often without funding) to carry out as best they can.

  Yes and NGO's in most instances sadly, and I think unfairly, ill financially
prepared to provide well for this...

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> But only a few years ago, I was constantly hearing that the only way to use the Internet was to learn to read and write English because everything on the 'Net was going to be in English. I'm hearing that a lot less often these days, thank heaven, and millions of Internet users are coming online as they realize they can use the 'Net in their own language -- not only those with Roman alphabets but also languages like Russian, Arabic, Korean and even Tamil!

  Here Here!

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> Promoting literacy in a region where there is no public school and no money for books and conventional teaching is extremely difficult. The Internet can play a major role in those settings once some form of access is provided and a suitable distance education program developed for the language needed. There is no technical reason why computer-assisted teaching (with words spoken as well as displayed) can't be as effective for literacy teaching as it already is for teaching foreign languages to well-equipped westerners. Nobody is going to make a lot of money providing these things to the poor in the developing world, though.

  Good point here!  Indeed these needs are righteous and well worth the long
term return.  Most smart commercial Internet related companies know this...
However NGO's have very limited resources and have trouble gathering
those resources.  I personally have worked closely with  many of them
in Asia and have run up against the financial problems of various types
that make NGO's efforts less successful than they otherwise might be.

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> Therefore, the people involved in these efforts tend to be employed on temporary contracts with development agencies or to be unpaid altruists.
> They are probably too busy to get involved with DNS issues or ICANN's derelictions of duty. Those they help are even less likely to become involved at this stage of our efforts.

  Very good point here!  These folks are not likely too interested in
ICANN or DNS issues even though they effect them as they are too
busy in just making ends meet frequently...

> But in the long run what happens to all of them will be affected by how the Internet is managed by whoever is placed in authority over it. Frankly, that's why I care so much about this effort -- there is no way in h**l that the people now claiming total control even think about these issues, let alone plan to make sure that the Internet reaches its full potential as a force for good.

  Sadly again you are quite right here.  However this is what in part
[INEGroup] was initiated and in part to protect these less than
privileged folks from the sometimes ravages of ICANN...

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> <pontification mode off for the day>
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> Judyth
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