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Re: [atlarge-discuss] List/website/connectivity



Judyth and all stakeholders or other interested parties and members,

espresso@e-scape.net wrote:

> At 18:30 -0700 2002/10/07, Bruce Young wrote:
> >I think what we need in areas that are underdeveloped communications-wise >is
> >to look at bypassing older technologies that are pervasive in the US and
> >elsewhere, and deploy portable wireless devices.  802.11b chipset prices are
> >falling rapidly, and we can expect to see them as standard equipment in
> >almost every digital device.  I see something similar to Microsoft's Tablet
> >PC (without their price!), maybe running all open-source software, with
> >built-in Wi-Fi, and using one of several new organic displays that will be
> >very cheap to manufactur in quantity.  This would be less expensive to
> >deploy than traditional desktop PCs, would be easier to modify for non-roman
> >character sets, and would be more useful being a portable device.
>
> That's all very well, Bruce, but we are in no position to supply the developing countries, or even the poor in our own, with that technology.

  Very true here.  In fact as I have been harping on for months now, this
organization cannot even take donations legally or ethically so that we can
pay our own way!  It is deplorable that by now this has not been addressed.
As I recall Jefsey before this forum was put up, the he promised to
register this organization as a legal entity in France.  That as far as I know,
has yet to occur.  Why is that?  Well if I were guessing, and I am, it is
because Jefsey does not have the FUNDS to pay for such.  And he
should not pay for it out of his own pocket either.  WE should be
gathering initial funding for this work.  I have done some of that
already (See finance thread on this forum).  And as a result have been
severely criticized for doing so!  Jeeezzz!  How the hell do you or any
member expect to get the ball rolling Judyth!!???

> Not even the UN or the World Bank has come anywhere near a viable plan to deploy the ICTs by 2010, let alone immediately.

  Mos to the members of the UN would be lucky if they could find there way
to the bathroom...  So that comparison, as our president has made pretty
clear, is pointless and really not relevant...

>
>
> Meanwhile, even if everyone had a Wi-Fi-capable handheld, one would have to take into account the facts that these devices have much smaller displays than current desktop systems and that not everyone has 20/20 vision.

  Well they can get some glasses!  >;)  Hell Judyth, INEGroup donated some
900 hand held computers with Wi-FI capability this year alone in south east
asia...

>
>
> I'm not knocking your suggestion that everyone on the planet *should* have these devices. But I do have to say, as Eric did, that we should be taking present realities into account in our Web site design. What sort of voice can this organization be for all Internet users if we make it impossible for  the less-affluent, the handicapped, and those for whom Internet connections are difficult and expensive to use our own Web site?

  INEGroup has some 1800 visually handicapped members, and we don't
have a problem in keeping them up to speed.  But of course again this takes
$$.  This organization doesn't yet have any $$ to speak of yet, and doesn't
seem to want any either.  Pardon my bluntness here, but that CRAP don't
cut it Judyth!

>
>
> It seems to me that the last thing the planet needs is yet another organization to represent the interests of the technically-inclined and the affluent, which simply dismisses the needs of the rest on the grounds that some day some of them may have what we have now. Isn't that part of what we object to in ICANN's behaviour?

  Yes your right here Judyth, it is in part why we object to ICANN's
behavior.  But only in part...  There are many other reasons as well
even from the more affluent.

>
>
> Regards,
>
> Judyth
> (looking forward to various efforts to represent the needs
> of all to the 2003 World Summit on the Information Society,
> and rather surprised that this group doesn't seem to care)
>
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> Montreal, QC           <espresso@e-scape.net>
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Regards,
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Jeffrey A. Williams
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CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
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