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Re: [atlarge-discuss] Mission RE: [atlarge-discuss] List/website/connectivity

Norbert and all stakeholders or other interested parties and members,

Norbert Klein wrote:

> espresso@e-scape.net wrote:
> > At 04:47 +0200 2002/10/09, Norbert Klein wrote:
> > I think >the central concern here is ICANN - and the fact that
> ICANN changed its original course, a very specific (and narrow)
> track. In some of the ICANN-critical discussions the "mission
> creep" has been denounced, that >ICANN took on more and more
> functions (example: in trade mark protection) >which were not
> the original tasks of ICANN.
> >
> >
> > That is certainly a legitimate position to take, in line with what I call the "narrowly-defined" mission.
> >
> > I am obviously more inclined to take on a "broadly-defined" mission.
> OK, Judyth - that clarifies things. And I think the fact that we have
> been poing around in circles for half a year is related to this very
> issue. This group cannot do both at the same time, I think, without
> losing any focus.

  Huh!!??  Well why the hell not Nobert?  If this organization cannot
engage multiple issues at the same time this organization will
never get very far, accomplish much, or gain any creditability.

> To work on what you call the "broadly-defined mission" I would not stay
> in this group. There are other, much better venues - and you have
> indicated some of them. Who is going to work on the "narrow"  tasks
> (which is surely less fun that to change the whole world).

  Any member or sub-group of members can engage specific
issues in Committees, Working groups, and god forbid, Task forces.
No one that I know of really expects this organization to
"Change the World", just a small part of it.  Challenges are
great, yes, but together we can take on the challenges if we
set our minds, and efforts to do so.  If however we take
a "Well this is good enough" or a defeatist "Barely Adequate",
as in barelyadaquate.com approach/attitude that we marginalize
ourselves as an organization and the members independently.

> > I also don't believe, unfortunately, that our group can reverse
> > the neoconservative ideology which governs the United States
> > and therefore is applied by the U.S. Department of Commerce
> > to its "Memorandums of Understanding" with ICANN, even though
> > the new one pays some lip service to recognizing input from
> > Internet users as well as the major players in the industry.
> Here I think you are wrong in terms of the history. The need "to
> recognize input form Internet users"  is not just in the new Memorandum
> - it was clearly stated at the beginning, in summer and autumn 1998,
> before and when ICANN was started. But the appointed board did not stay
> with their original mandate. That is why the new Memorandum of September
> 2002 is cling the ICANN board to live up to their original mandate.

  No the new MoU does not abandon the membership requirement
Norbert, not the stakeholders.  Read it again...

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