RE: [at large-discuss] Identity WG and limiting posts.

["McMeikan, Andrew" <McMeikanA@logica.com>]

While I am seriously against censorship and invasions of privacy I believe
that any representative that can take an official office must be established
as a real and verifiable person.

Birth certificate, government issued photo ID and other hard to forge
documents can help in this.

In fact just a telephone number is probably all that's really needed most of
the time with only those holding positions of power (treasurer etc.) having
to divulge more details.

I would still like to believe that there is a place for anonymous comments.


How do people see the following set up.

1. anonymous guest comments in forums, public comment areas
2. unverified, email address, persistent nyms.  - regular contributors who
do not wish to disclose private details.
3. contactable verified persons, able to hold positions
4. Highly accountable, we know where they live, can successfully get
arrested if they run off with the cash box.  Need plenty of details. Able to
hold important office and be legally responsible.

Only a dedicated few will want to be in 4, many persistent people who care
will be prepared to be in 3.

The vast unwashed masses will surely only care for 2, with the paranoids in
1.

Is such a system practical?

	cya,	Andrew...


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Deif Fenderson [mailto:idiscreditfrauds@indiatimes.com]
> Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 4:02 AM
> To: atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de
> Subject: [atlarge-discuss] Identity WG and limiting posts.
> 
> 
> Members of the WG-ID group,
> 
> 
> Could you please tell us where things are going?  We 
> desperately need some action here.  We must have *REAL* 
> people in our group if we are to be taken seriously.  I 
> seriously doubt the 1000 member level.
> 
> 
> Remember the votes in our election?  There are at least 12 
> zombis in this mailing list group! And there is one REAL big 
> annoyance.
> 
> 
> There have been repeated calls for a limit on the number of 
> posts a person can make a day.  Please we must implement this 
> soon, before all the normal people are scared away.  And 
> beleive me, our credibility as a group is being seriously 
> compromized.  We have people with no authority setting up 
> bank accounts for this group and proposing to send speakers 
> from non-existant companies to represent us in Singapore.  If 
> we are going to get anything useful done, we've got to clear 
> out some of the noise!!!!  
> 
> 
> Either verify the identity of our members (I seriously doubt 
> we still have 1000 members) or impose some posting controls.  
> It's not censorship!  Make the number of posts high enough to 
> allow for a debate - but one day this kook posted 30 times.  
> Make the threshold 8, and we can reduce some of this crap and 
> porvide releif to people with slower connections.
> 
> 
> Thank you for your action.
> 
> 
> Deif
> 
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