Re: [atlarge-discuss] Quis custodiet? - Attention Hans!

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Jamie and all stakeholders or other interested parties and members,

  These are all good questions here Jamie.  I have yet to see this
Draft either.  Hans, where is this draft bylaws posted, or is it posted?
Please advise.

James Love wrote:

> Hans, what does it mean, "The panel currently has a draft bylaws."   Is this
> short for "Hans posted a draft bylaws" to a list?  Does that make it a panel
> draft?  Did it come from the bylaws wg?   Jamie
>
> Hans Klein wrote:
> >
> > Sotiris,
> >
> > Thanks for pointing out David Farrar's excellent contributions on
> > incorporation and bylaws.  My apologies to Mr. Farrar, in that I failed
> > to see his messages.
> >
> > The panel currently has a draft bylaws.  It should be much easier to
> > work with Mr. Farrar's proposals now that we have gotten some focus on
> > our own thinking!
> >
> > Hans
> >
> >
> >
> > At 12:03 AM 10/21/2002 -0400, Sotiris Sotiropoulos wrote:
> >
> >> A short while ago, David Farrar made the generous offer of
> >> registering this organization as a New Zealand
> >> non-profit.  His proposal was a serious one and it
> >> received next to no attention by our Panel which has yet
> >> to even have begun discussing any feasible alternatives or
> >> options.  David followed up his first offer with a solid
> >> draft of a possible constitutional document for the
> >> administrative and executive sedimenting of our
> >> organization.  His submission was again given little (if
> >> any?) consideration by our Panel.  Instead, the Panel List
> >> is undergoing a potentially distempering discussion on a
> >> by-laws rush job where inflammatory language has now been
> >> introduced:
> >> *************
> >> Subject: Re: [atlarge-panel] Our status going into
> >> Shanghai
> >> Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 16:40:53 -0400
> >> From: James Love <james.love@cptech.org>
> >> To: Hans Klein <hans.klein@pubpolicy.gatech.edu>
> >> CC: panel list <atlarge-panel@lists.fitug.de>
> >> References:
> >> <5.1.0.14.2.20021020161720.0399de60@mail.atl.bellsouth.net>
> >>
> >> >No fucking way should the version 1 draft bylaws be
> >> published in 24 hours.
> >> >    THey are an embrassment from the legal point of view,
> >> there has been no
> >> >debate on the panel....   This is exactly the type of
> >> crap that makes us
> >> >look like idiots.
> >>
> >> >1.  The format isn't even right for bylaws.
> >> >2.  They don't way how changes in bylaws are approved.
> >> >3.  They leave out lots of key issues for a real set of
> >> bylaws, such a
> >> >conflict of interest.
> >>
> >> >If you want a good idea of what they might look like,
> >> take a look at the
> >> >Canadian CIRA bylaws.  Note they are 23 pages in PDF
> >> form. I don't think we
> >> >need as many pages, but hello, there is a lot of stuff
> >> just missing from
> >> >Han's instant bylaws trick.
> >>
> >> http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-panel/0210/msg00256.html
> >> *****************
> >>
> >> It's nice to see that passion is still part of the
> >> political discourse of the present day, otherwise I'd feel
> >> as if I fell into a ward full of sedated and drooling
> >> nod-givers right about now.  What is happening here
> >> exactly?
> >>
> >> I'm with Danny on the proposal of a rule to ensure that
> >> this organization's Panel NOT be made up of other related
> >> organizations' Panel Members.
> >>
> >> Sincerely,
> >>
> >> Sotiris Sotiropoulos
> >>
> >>
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