Re: [atlarge-discuss] A Plan... but no funding...

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Stephen and all stakeholders or other interested parties and members,

Stephen Waters wrote:

> On Fri, 2002-11-15 at 10:29, Jeff Williams wrote:
> >
> > Stephen Waters wrote:
> >
> > > Are you saying you are more in favor of a direct democracy than a
> > > democratic republic system with input through representatives and PACs?
> >
> >   No I am not.  What of my modification above prompted you to
> > ask this question or perhaps assume such?
>
> "voices and vote taken on any and all issues..."

  Your paraphrasing here Stephen.  You left out the rest of this
sentence...  :(  Nice try at spin though...  The rest of that
sentence in my update is as follows: "related to the
 Internet that those noted and self defined stakeholders/users see fit
 to consider effect them directly or indirectly as to policy or standard."
So the COMPLETE sentence reads: "o PROVIDE a mechanism and means for all
Stakeholders/USERS to
 have their voices and vote taken on any and all issues related to the
Internet that those noted and self defined stakeholders/users see fit
to consider effect them directly or indirectly as to policy or standard."
Also see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0211/msg00325.html
For verification purposes if needed...

>
>
> The terms of art are "initiative" and "referendum". If you'd said that,
> I'd've understood immediately. :)

  Well what I DID state at
http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0211/msg00325.html
is essentially the same thing stated in more exacting detail...

>
>
> FWIW, the "To PROVIDE a mechanism" paragragh was meant to deal with how
> ICANNATLARGE.ORG would advocate and participate in IOOs (Internet
> Oversight Organizations), not how internal ICANNATLARGE.ORG democracy
> was handled.

  Fair enough, as far as that goes...

>
>
> Referendum/Initiative is a great idea, I just don't want my Inbox filled
> with endless minutia on every issue. (c.f., the Texas constitution where
> citizens in totally irrelevant counties are requested to vote on minor
> issues solely concerning other counties and whatnot every other year.
> Ick.)

  Well democracy is often complex in that many such initiatives
and issues in an ever changing and evolving world would likely
dictate that many such messages would appear in the Inbox of
those that are wishing to be self aware and self involved.

>
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Regards,
--
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 127k members/stakeholders strong!)
CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
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