[atlarge-discuss] Re: [wg-web] managing our site

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Jefsey and all WG-WEB participants,

  Jefsey, you were never WG-WEB chair in the first place.  Hence you cannot
relinquish any such a position to anyone.  As you know today Sotiris
has requested and I seconded, that the current Panel be replaced
en mass.  Hence even to suggest Vittorio for any future position
within ICANNATLARGE.ORG is frankly, irresponsible in the
extream.

J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin wrote:

> Dear all,
> I relinquished Charimanship to Vittorio because no one else was
> nominated/seconded and for him to carry a precise agenda:
> - to propose a charter
> - to have it approved by the Panel
> - to elect a final Chair as per that Charter
>
> I understood that Judyth had produced a good siggestion draft for a Charter
> and asked her to revamp it as a more formal proposition?
> jfc
>
> On 19:36 28/11/02, espresso@e-scape.net said:
>
> >At 12:00 -0800 2002/11/27, Micheal Sherrill wrote:
> > >OK, people.  Let us start doing something.
> >
> >Hello, all,
> >
> >I heartily concur but am swamped with work at the moment so my time will
> >be very limited until December 7th. I'll try to be brief...
> >
> >1) I'm really not Webmaster material myself but these are my criteria for
> >selecting one:
> >    a) technical skills to cope with multiple types of software,
> > installations and updating, checking logs and preventing hacks, etc.
> >    b) willingness to spend time monitoring the site and to post approved
> >materials in a timely manner
> >    c) willingness as well as ability to work with WG-Web in developing
> > site design, posting protocols, etc.
> >I have *no* problem with the Webmaster having editorial *input* via this
> >group; I have a major problem with the idea that the Webmaster will
> >control style and content unilaterally or on instructions from a Chair,
> >whether of this group or the Panel.
> >
> >2) Having taken the time to download the entire site (all linked files
> >included) about ten days ago, I can only say what we had at that moment
> >was a real dog's dinner from the visitor perspective. Whatever is done
> >with the site, these are the values I myself would engrave in stone:
> >
> >A - an uncluttered home page containing
> >        a) our statement of purpose in a few paragraphs
> >        b) a simple "tree" structure defining the main areas a
> > newly-arrived visitor can understand --- say, a section on the
> > organization itself with links to structural matters, a section for
> > registering and volunteering which explains *why* joining would be good
> > and what members can expect (links to registration form, member list,
> > mailing lists, forums, etc.); a section on ICANN and its history, a
> > section defining the main players in Internet administration/governance
> > and their organizations, etc., etc.
> >        c) ideally, a search utility for navigating directly to what one
> > is looking for
> >
> >B - a priority on site usability --- nice as the IPRO document may be as a
> >basis for discussion, I would require primarily the following:
> >       a) no PDFs unless an HTML or plain-text equivalent is also available
> >       b) no other materials posted in proprietary formats unless an HTML
> > or plain-text equivalent is also available or an ALT tag explains what
> > the user is missing through inability to deal with the proprietary format
> >       c) no text content embedded in graphics, video, etc.
> >       d) all pages checked to be backward-compatible to HTML 3.2 standard
> > and usable with a text browser, text-to-speech reader, small
> > low-resolution monitor, etc.
> >       e) forget about streamed audiovisuals, animations, etc. at least
> > until we have all our ducks in a row, and keep all graphics small and
> > fast-loading
> >       f) ALL documents in workflow to be submitted in plain text or HTML
> > files, and all graphics (if any) as .GIF or .JPG unless both sender and
> > receivers are comfortable with another choice.
> >
> >C - recognition of the reality that most visitors to the site will not be
> >in a position to read 1000 pages of administrative and technical bumph to
> >discover what issues we are trying to address:
> >        a) we'll need to write introductory material, with links to
> > external documents where necessary but NOT assuming the average Internet
> > user will be reading all of the historical record or capable of
> > understanding the finer points of technology
> >        b) at least the introductory material and home/index page should
> > be available in other languages, with links to those languages at the TOP
> > of the home page (so people with unstable or limited connections don't
> > have to load the whole page if they can't understand it anyhow)
> >
> >3) On the subject of site structure, I would like to propose that we call
> >for suggestions and even submissions from the wider membership before
> >finalizing any design templates -- the templates should be constructed to
> >suit what the group wants to do, not the other way around. A preliminary
> >overall design should be prepared ASAP and subjected to comments from the
> >membership before it can be considered final.
> >
> >4) On the subject of workflow, I'd suggest that whoever originates an idea
> >or provides the first draft of a text for the site, it should be submitted
> >to this group for approval in principle, then assigned to a specific
> >person who will shepherd it through editing, proofreading, editing,
> >tagging or whatever. That person may be somebody chosen to serve as
> >"managing editor" for site content, or we could simply let somebody
> >volunteer to guide a particular document through the process. Either way,
> >once a given document has reached its semi-final state, it should come
> >back to WG-Web for a resolution to post. A new posting should be announced
> >on atlarge-discuss and member comments invited so that corrections and
> >improvements can be handled promptly.
> >
> >5) As for the work of this WG, I'd like to see us focus directly on the
> >matter at hand, without too many excursions into side-issues. To that end,
> >we do need to agree on a Chair and an Agenda with some kind of timeline
> >attached. Would it be reasonable to ask whether there is a consensus on
> >Vittorio's chairmanship and, if not, for another volunteer or nominations
> >so we can settle that ASAP? Then, with a Chair in place, we could try
> >setting an agenda so that the most urgent issues related to our current
> >site content can be dealt with immediately while we work (in a structured
> >way) towards defining process and policies and long-term site design?
> >
> >HTH,
> >
> >Judyth
> >
> >##########################################################
> >Judyth Mermelstein     "cogito ergo lego ergo cogito..."
> >Montreal, QC           <espresso@e-scape.net>
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> >
> >
> >
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Regards,

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