Re: [atlarge-discuss] Judyth and Jan, voting method

["J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin" <jefsey@club-internet.fr>]

Dear Jan,
First, so you feel at ease:
- I will NOT be a candidate
- I will set-up the second polling solution we need è asap if needed, 
professionnally othewise.

Now, there are three different aspects.
1. legitimacy
2. the list
3. the procedure

legitimacy
What Vittorio did was to try to kill for ever everything we clumsily built. 
Why, because if we start accepting once a breach in legitimacy we have no 
reason why to refuse next time. So this election must be under the control 
of the Panel - or it is a new system and nothing will prevent anyone to do 
it again and to mare us again and again as it happened with IDNO.  This is 
why I will not be a candidate and will develop a voting solution: to ensure 
continuity.

The list.
I have an old list at some stage in my Panelist capacoty. I did not open 
it. Today only Vittorio, Bruce and me are legitimate in having that list, 
because people registered in an organization not in Joop's, Judyth's or 
Jan's hands. Since Vittorio, Bruce and me in different ways have asked you 
and Judyth to get the list and be watchdog and accepted it, you are 
legitimate watchdogs. However Bruce and me should be copied the list for 
things to be clean and clear, since three on five authorized owners are not 
having it.

The procedure
I do not like the way Joop does not make work his system with a click and 
vote link. I do not like the fact that he wants only 2 trustees. I wish 5 
and with good programming skills. Both for my own tranquility as a voter 
and for their own sake (so no one says that one is pro-this one etc.)  So 
if there are 5 watchdog I am OK for Joop. My opinion is that no system 
qualifies if a candidate is involved.

I am no candidate. For reasons I gave yesterday. I want to be a watchdog.
I certainly support Joop as a candidate and I will organize the vote should 
he be.
I certainly support Joop's booth for a vote (it would save me a lot of time 
right now).

jfc





















On 14:58 28/02/03, Jan Siren said:

> J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin wrote:
> >
> > Dear Judyth and Jan,
> > Do not misconstrue my remark on the voting method. Joop and everyone agree
> > the vote should be carried by a third party (hopefully DNSO if one shot),
> > or if no other simple way though the Booth with trustees if they feel at
> > ease. No one, I think, may unfortunately take seriously Vittorio's solution
> > because it was the first thing I suggested him to do when I nominated him
> > for Chair against ... Joanna, and his only response ever since was "not the
> > time".
> >
> > If we have no other solution, here is what I proposed Bruce and we feel we
> > can manage (anyone welcome to code the CGI.
> >
>
> ....
>
> Jefsey, I cannot in good conscience endorse any particular procedure that I
> haven't had an opportunity to "dry-run."  As is the case with this new
> scheme.  My promise to do my best is no guarantee of success.  I have raised
> this concern previously with Joop regarding his Polling Booth, and have (with
> some hesitation) consented to give watchdogging a try, having participated in
> one Polling Booth cycle as a voter.  (And having then perceived certain flaws
> and subsequently reported them to him.)
>
>
>
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