Re: [atlarge-discuss] MEMEBRS AS WATCHDOGS - RECOUNT

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Walter and all fellow members,

  I have to give it to you again Walter. Your spot on!  This
Jefsey-election is a sham if not a scam and a fraud.

Walter Schmidt wrote:

> Folks -
>
> I've explained this a few times, I will do so one more time...
>
> > > There is no apparent way to check that (1) only valid member's votes
> > > were counted,
> > You have the list of the voters.
>
>    ...Since the votes have been stripped of their "identity," there is no
> link to the "list of voters." All we know is X number of votes were
> received and X number of votes were counted. All sorts of errors or
> irregularities could have caused the X number of votes counted to NOT
> represent the actual votes cast.
>
> > 1. you have the program which took the raw data and removed the noise
> > (and identification means to preserve the secrecy fo the vote).
>
>    ...we have "a program." There were no controls over the program that
> would have ensured what we have will "run" as it did "run" when the votes
> were counted, or that it is the program that was "run."
>
> When the identity of the voter does not stay with the vote cast, many
> controls and many observers are used to ensure there are no errors or
> irregularities. Just think about one's own local elections...
>
> One reason we have never stripped identity information and have used
> watchdogs to count - is that under this "simple," "non-complex" system,
> the certainty of only counting valid votes, and counting them correctly,
> can be easily maintained.
>
> Under the "complex system" we used, in order to maintain the same level of
> "certainty" as under the system we had used, a variety of controls needed
> to have been used, "before," "during" and "after" the voting process.
> Without the "before" and "during"  controls, any actions performed
> "after," are not conclusive.
>
> We cannot ensure there were no errors or irregularities...
>
> > I think that the system we ran did that.
>
>    ...I know that while the system you ran might have produced accurate
> results, running it as you did without the necessary "before" or "during"
> controls does not allow us to know this, with any degree of certainty...
>
> --
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Regards,

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Jeffrey A. Williams
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