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Re: [atlarge-discuss] POLLING COMMITTEE: Reporting Audited Results
Walter and all fellow members,
Yes the not completely quoting off-list comments, on list is an old
and bad trick that is often used for nefarious purposes. Jefsey,
amongst others use this trick to slur others that may not completely
agree with their point of view on issues or various sorts.
Thank you very much Walter for pointing this out in this
instance for all to see.
Walter Schmidt wrote:
> Folks -
>
> Jefsey writes me in private, I reply in kind. Jefsey then quotes what I
> wrote to only him, out of context.
>
> What follows is not new, rather what I sent him so my comments, for the
> record, are kept "in context."
>
> On Wed, 4 Jun 2003, J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin wrote:
>
> > At 21:58 03/06/03, Walter Schmidt wrote:
> > >By stripping the name from the votes, giving them a "number," and not
> > >maintaining a name=number table, you have a complex transaction.
> >
> > This is totally wrong.
>
> Now as to my full comments:
>
> ----------------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 15:58:13 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Walter Schmidt <walts@dorsai.org>
> To: "J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin" <jefsey@club-internet.fr>
> Cc: Walter Schmidt <walts@dorsai.org>
> Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] POLLING COMMITTEE: Reporting Audited
> Results
>
> On Tue, 3 Jun 2003, J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin wrote:
>
> > You can tell it openly an other way: Because you had not access to the
> > raw data Bruce, Erick and me have conspired to biase that vote.
>
> Not at all - what you have done is create a "complex transaction."
>
> A simple or non-complex transaction becomes complex due to the volume of
> transactions (not our problem), or if individual transactions lose their
> identity during/in the process cycle - that is, they cannot be
> traced/followed at/through each step of the process.
>
> By stripping the name from the votes, giving them a "number," and not
> maintaining a name=number table, you have a complex transaction.
>
> Certain controls over complex transactions need to be "active" before,
> during and after the process - or, one does not "know" if the results of
> the process are as they should be - they might be, the might not be.
>
> > Why to use so complex wording for plain things.
>
> Attestation work has its own terminology - precise - errors or
> irregularities, accuracy and completion, just to mention two sets - plain
> or not, the wording remains the same.
>
> I guess we will agree to disagree - I believe you when say you know
> everything about your system is working as you know it should - from what
> I know, no attestation professional would be able to make positive, or as
> we sometimes do non-negative statements about the process without, first,
> seeing the addition of certain controls.
>
> --
>
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