Re: [atlarge-discuss] [Fwd: Tonight] - Who's illegitimate?

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Richard and all fellow members,

Richard Henderson wrote:

> Tread very carefully anyway.
>
> It is so easy to be sucked into this discredited set up because we like to
> feel part of things.
>
> But we should have two messages for ICANN:
>
> 1. You are illegitimate

  Nonsense.  ICANN is not illegitimate, it is just far out of step.
DOC/NTIA made a big mistake in 1998 "Selecting"
what is now and has become ICANN...  This can change
in sept. of this year if we can make the case along
with other independent stakeholder/user groups around
the globe.

  But given the farce of an election that Jefsey, Eric, and
Bruce conducted, we are effectively and actually, illegitimate....
Furthermore  you know this and have stated as much yourself...

  Now we have to clean up our own house before we
can collectively demand or expect ICANN to do the same...
And they KNOW this and will use it as well...

>
>
> 2. The DNS should be administered by the people of the world, for the people
> of the world, and the US quango which operates it for DoC, and which expels
> the elected representatives of the At Large, is worthy of no acknowledgement
> until it restores a central, bottom up, and democratic role for Internet
> Users, at the heart of the ICANN Board.

  It's NOT DOC Richard, it's DOC/NTIA...  Big difference.  But
otherwise you are partly correct in the rest of your comment above.
But only so if you believe that ICANN can truly reform.  I don't
at this point as the "Reform" effort as far as the present
ICANN BoD and staff are concerned is completed according
to Twomey, the new CEO of ICANN...

>
>
> Until such time, all our cosying up to ICANN personalities risks
> legitimising an organisation which is discredited, autocratic,
> self-perpetuating, and subservient to vested interests.

  Agreed here.  But if and when we have our house cleaned
up, than we must be willing to work with ICANN where we can
or seek to replace it...

>
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Henderson
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Sotiris Sotiropoulos <sotiris@hermesnetwork.com>
> To: At Large Discuss <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 5:28 PM
> Subject: [atlarge-discuss] [Fwd: Tonight]
>
> > Oh NO!!!  I just realized my HUGE mistake!
> >
> > I actually met with Mike Roberts and NOT Joe Sims last night (as
> > detailed in my message below...)!  I am sincerely sorry for misleading
> > anyone.  I confused the two!  Heck, there was booze involved and I claim
> > momentary lapse of reason with respect to the inaccuracy of my report!!
> >
> > Sorry to all.
> >
> > --Sotiris Sotiropoulos
> >
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