Re: [atlarge-discuss] Comment from Panelist André Rebentisch

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Ron and all fellow members,

  I can't speak for Mr. Klein, but perhaps he believes that the
current False Jefsey-election "panel" is as phony as a 3$ bill
which has been pretty much established as even you Ron
have pointed out several times yourself, and he has decided
to neither vote, nor resign in order to show just how
silly and petty the whole idea is?  Than again as Danny
rightly points in different terms, until or unless there is
a viable and safe voting method/system along with
bylaws and articles of incorporation such a phony
"panel's" vote's without the stated broad support
of the members is basically and not creditable.


Ron Sherwood wrote:

> Good morning, Danny:
>
> This is not a reasonable representation of the duties of a Panel member.
>
> Panelists were elected by the membership to work together on the issues
> before them. Not to do nothing if they had no interest in whatever was on
> the agenda at any given time.  they were also required to vote on every
> issue with a penalty of removal from office if they failed to vote on three
> consecutive issues without being excused. For you to suggest that Sebastian
> Klein may do nothing, may fail to attend meetings, and may fail to vote on 9
> out of 10 consecutive occasions, is preposterous.
>
> If, as you suggest, Sebastian looks at it as a "waste of time" then he
> should have resigned immediately.
>
> Ron Sherwood
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <DannyYounger@cs.com>
> To: <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 9:43 AM
> Subject: [atlarge-discuss] Comment from Panelist André Rebentisch
>
> > The Right Not to Vote:
> >
> > "In general no one is obliged to participate if he or she was elected to a
> > panel, a parliament ecc.  Voting is a right not a duty.
> >
> > However I believe we shouldn't discuss about voting procedures and
> > participation as up to now nothing was actually achieved by this panel
> except
> > self-organisation. I am not interested in voting procedures and panel
> rules. I am more
> > concerned about the objective of a panel.
> >
> > However nothing substancial was reached up to now.
> >
> > Expellation by doing nothing with much rumor!  If there were issues
> Sebastian
> > was intrested in he would participate. Nobody should obliged to
> participate.
> > Discussions about rules and regulation are only anything worth if there
> was
> > something that has to be regulated.  Paranoia and control are only needed
> if
> > there was power.  Bureaucracy leads to inefficient structures.  Look at
> the
> > output of the panel.  What have we archieved yet, what do we want to
> archieve?
> > The latter I cannot answer.  I guess Sebastian looks at it as I do: a
> waste of
> > time."
> >
> > http://mailman.icannatlarge.org/pipermail/panel/2003-July/000932.html
> >
> >
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