Re: [atlarge-discuss] Membership fees

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Ron and all fellow members,

Ron Sherwood wrote:

> Thank you, Jeff:
>
> On behalf of the entire membership, I gladly accept your generous offer of
> $25,000 (I think that was what you said you are holding in escrow for us) so
> that we don't have to look elsewhere for seed money.

  The amount was over $35k US not $25kUS.  And due to no
one or member of this fledgling organization stepped up to the
plate with a Security Bond, those funds were returned to the
donors or used for alternative purposes some time ago now.
I announced this on this forum some time ago now, and
also posted several warnings/prompts on this forum for some
members or authorized bonded agent/legal representative to
step forward, but no one ever did, and as I recall Jan Siren
Poop oohed the idea of doing so around that time frame...

>  - snip - (See above)
>
> I am sure we are all very grateful to you for no longer having to consider
> the one source that should be attempting to support us.

  I will be happy to yet again set up another Trust account if there
is a members other than myself that can come up or put up a
security bond in order for me to turn over any new and future
funds that can be garnered in a fairly short amount of time
form this, or a agreed upon date.  Are you Ron, willing or
able to put up or secure a security bond for around $300k
or so?  Do you Ron have the ability and credit rating and/or
assets to acquire such a bond?  Do you Ron or any other
member here have the ability to do same?  If so, please
to let me know on list or off list or even via a registered
letter.  If any member here does not have the access or
of such a bonding company, I can also help out with that
in some areas of the US, Canada, Sweden, UK, and
Brazil.

>
>
> Ron Sherwood
> .
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeff Williams" <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>
> To: "Jan Siren" <sirenj@earthlink.net>
> Cc: <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
> Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 10:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Membership fees
>
> > Jan, Ron and all fellow members,
> >
> >   Of course, Jan is quite right here.
> >
> >   I also fail to comprehend why this fledgling organization with
> > the current mix of members would even consider such a request
> > to ICANN for any funds what so ever when we should easily be
> > able to garner such funds via our own efforts, and initially from
> > our own pockets.  Making or engaging in a financial link of
> > or from ICANN given their history in financial misbehavior
> > would be a potential prelude to significant intrigue of a negative
> > nature that as a fledgling organization we cannot afford...
> >
> >
> >
> > Jan Siren wrote:
> >
> > > Ron Sherwood wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Good morning, Jan:
> > > >
> > > > Of course you are right in your suggestion that, once legally
> established,
> > > > we apply to a whole plethora of trusts that are likely to fund certain
> > > > aspects of our organization.
> > > >
> > > > However, why do you and so many other people attempt to negate the
> idea of a
> > > > simple request to ICANN for seed money?  It is not our job to decide
> that
> > > > ICANN does not have money in their budget to help organize a grass
> roots
> > > > (bottom-up) structure...  it is for them to tell us that, if they
> don't want
> > > > to help!
> > >
> > > ...
> > >
> > > Waste of time in my view.  Right now we have no structure from which to
> > > solicit support.  After we have By-laws, elected a Board, have
> > > incorporated,
> > > and have identified a qualified grant-writer among ourselves...*then* we
> > > will
> > > be in a position to seek financial support somewhere.  If we have a
> > > well-crafted proposal in hand, it would make more sense at that time to
> > > go to
> > > directly to a foundation with a mission to support worthy causes, and
> > > which
> > > is likely to be more sympathetic to our aims than ICANN is ever likely
> to
> > > be...
> > >
> > > ...in short, I don't imagine a circumstance that makes your original
> > > suggestion likely to succeed.
> > >
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> >
> > --
> > Jeffrey A. Williams
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Regards,

--
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 131k members/stakeholders strong!)
"Be precise in the use of words and expect precision from others" -
    Pierre Abelard
===============================================================
CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security
Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
Contact Number: 214-244-4827 or 214-244-3801



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