Re: [icann-eu] Proposal: icann-europe-full

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Geoff and all,

Geoff Boyle (123.ie) wrote:

> Jeff and all
>
> If Jim had been allowed to continue with his lengthy and largely irrelevant
> mails I (and I'm sure some others) would have unsubscribed due to the volume of
> irrelevant material passing across my desktop.

 They can also deploy their own filters to solve this problem if they so choose.
So censoring Jim was both unnecessary and frankly, stupid.

>
>
> This attitude of 'It's Internet so you can't censor it' is childish. Besides,
> this isn't the Internet. It's a list.

  No it is a ML that the internet provides for everyone that is subscribed
to work.  BIG DIFFERENCE, Geoff!

> By subscribing you agree to certain
> things. Shall I now start posting my thoughts for a new European flag ? Would
> you censor me if I did ?

  No I wouldn't, of course.  I would just build a special filter for those
type of posts.  Problem solved.

>
> I subscribed to this list to receive information about ICANN in Europe. I would
> complain to the list owner if I received anything else.

  Well some folks like to just complain for the sake of complaining.  Maybe
you are one of those?

>
>
> I have no doubt that other lists will be taking similar action where Jim is
> misusing and cross posting largely irrelevant material.

  Please site a single post that Jim has posted that is irrelevant to the
scope of this ML.  If you do not wish to do so, than I can only
conclude that you are only doing the "Me Too" dance...

>
>
> That said, god bless Jim Flemings enthusiasm. He is truly the train spotter of
> the Internet.
>
> Geoff
>
> > Alexander and all,
> >
> >   Banning is a form of censorship.  CENSORSHIP in any of it's
> > forms is WRONG!
> >
> > Alexander Svensson wrote:
> >
> > > Thomas Roessler wrote:
> > > > How about the following approach: We could set up an
> > > > icann-europe-full mailing list to which people could subscribe. That
> > > > list wouldn't take any direct submissions (in fact, no
> > > > icann-europe-full mail address would exist), and work with the same
> > > > configuration as icann-europe, with the exception of the
> > > > taboo_headers setting.
> > >
> > > [...]
> > > > Would this help to address the worries some on this list have about
> > > > "censorship"?
> > >
> > > Jefsey: WXW (William X. Walsh) has not be banned, neither
> > > has Jeff -- only Jim Fleming has been banned for breaching
> > > the crossposting rules several times even after a warning.
> > >
> > > So I don't view the exclusion as censorship (there have to be
> > > minimum civil norms in order to conduct a discussion),
> > > but I would be fine with an additional full list.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > /// Alexander
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > --
> > Jeffrey A. Williams
> > Spokesman INEGroup (Over 112k members strong!)
> > CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
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> >
> >
> >

Regards,

--
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman INEGroup (Over 112k members strong!)
CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
Contact Number:  972-447-1800 x1894 or 9236 fwd's to home ph#
Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208