Re: [atlarge-discuss] RE: [atlarge-panel] Fw: [atlarge-discuss] ALOC

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Eric and all stakeholders or other interested parties,

Eric Dierker wrote:

> Sorry Mr. Williams,
>
> Our group for the at large which is the base of this list and which just
> elected internal panel members has never asked for nor granted anyone the
> right to represent us to the outside world.

  I beg to differ here.  Sotiris I believe was BEFORE the recent election,
representing ICANNATLARGE.COM in an unofficial capacity and
keeping us members updated as well...

>  At this point it would be like
> a Texan Senator signing a treaty with Spain. (oops bad historical example
> but it drives the point home)

  At THIS POINT yes, but not until this point perhaps...

>
>
> We have elected a panel to conduct internal procedural policies to
> legitimize our point of existance.  A demand you regularly make.

  Indeed true on both scores...

>
> Until such time as the concept of a President or Ambassadors or trade
> representatives treache proceduralized we must remain inward only, save
> outreach.

  Isn't conferring with the ALOC, outreach???  I had thought it was and
still is???  Has this changed?  If so how so?  Where is that change
documented Eric?  I don't see it on the ICANNATLARGE.COM
web site anywhere...  But I DO SEE at
http://www.at-large.org/at-large-members.htm
that Sotiris and Satyajit Gupta listing them associated with
ICANNATLARGE.COM...

> Sincerely,
> Eric
>
> > Eric and all stakeholders or other interested parties,
> >
> >   Which Group are you referring to Eric?  ALOC or ICANNATLARGE.COM
> > as a listed group as part of the At-Large.org?  If the latter the
> > answer is
> >
> > rather obvious and already documented.  If on the other hand you are
> > referring the ALOC on it's own, I can only surmise that Esther and
> > Denise are lobbying that they are legitimate in representing the
> > majority of participating stakeholders/users thru the listed member
> > "Groups" on the at-large.org web site.  To me personally, such
> > an assumption by the ALOC is based in they are structured as
> > a Trade Organization...  So such an assumption is a bit far
> > fetched...
> >
> >   I don't yet see any transparency, openness, or accountability
> > in the ALOC as to their representation of any of the "Trade
> > Groups" they list on their web site and also have no archived
> > E-Mail forum either.  As such the legitimacy seems to be
> > very much lacking...
> >
> > eric@hi-tek.com wrote:
> >
> >> Where did any authority come from to have representatives/advocates
> >> for this
> >> group?
> >>
> >> Eric
> >>
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> > Jeffrey A. Williams
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Regards,
--
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 124k members/stakeholders strong!)
CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
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Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208



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