Re: [atlarge-discuss] Provisional Membership Committee

["Ron Sherwood" <sherwood@islands.vi>]

Sotiris:

As a verified member of your Verification committee, why have I not received
a single piece of correspondence from you?

Why have you communicated with individuals and publicly aired personal
information about people that YOU say YOU have verified (or not), while
keeping that information from me (and probably all the other so-called
members of your so-called committee)?

When did this committee elect you Chairman?  Or were you self-appointed?

How can the last man elected to the Panel assume the Chairmanship /
Presidency / Dictatorship of a committee that he then runs without
disclosure to any other committee member while posting the private
information he gathers to a public list?  Oh, I forgot, this is Sotiris...
he can do anything he pleases.

Well Sotiris, I can tell you that you are NOT doing this in the name of the
Verification Committee.  Unless there are other committee members that you
consulted with (certainly that excluded me) before going public with Joey
Borda's private information, you abused your possession of this private
information ALONE and are SOLELY RESPONSIBLE. You did this as SOTIRIS.

You could save a little face by immediately apologizing to Joey Borda and
the membership for your actions and resign from the committee.  Or you could
do the RIGHT thing, and recognize that you are unsuited to a position of
responsibility and resign from the Panel.

Ron Sherwood


----- Original Message -----
From: "Sotiris Sotiropoulos" <sotiris@hermesnetwork.com>
To: <abel@able-towers.com>
Cc: "'Atlarge Discuss List'" <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] Provisional Membership Committee


>
>
> Abel Wisman wrote:
>
> >Sotiris,
> >
> >As long as there is no confirmation on the fact that you are an elected
> >panel member and as long as the panel as a whole has not voted on WHO is
> >to "chair" any sort of verification committee I do not see why you keep
> >railroading this along using procedures that are non isues.
> >
>
> Well, that's been settled and the panel confirmed.
>
> >You can send registered letter to f.i. the UK, but IF the reply is
> >returned, it could be signed by anyone living in that house without the
> >neccessity of showing id. Onceyou open the door you are only asked if
> >you are the recipient, a simple yes siffices, so again no proof.
> >
>
> Not exactly.  Registered mail *requires* id to be produced at the
> receiving end, otherwise it won't be delivered.  I think the UK
> equivalent is called Special Delivery.  I'm sure if you check with your
> local post office you will see that I'm correct.
>
> >
> >My id was established boyond a shadow of a doubt as were a few others,
> >why not start with accepting those.
> >
>
> Nobody is to be excluded, I myself will be verified.  Why do you balk at
> being verified Abel?
>
> >The few that remain can be verified
> >by the same committee if the panel, once installed, so wishes.
> >
>
> You can't have it both ways.  Either the panel runs the committee or
> not.  Your earlier comments seemed quite clearly in favour of "not", now
> you're saying something else.  Some consistency would be nice.  In any
> case, I now have 5 of the 7 Provisional Membership Committee verified
> and am waiting for any new volunteers until the 7th, at which time the
> Provisional Membership Committee will begin verifying all of the Panel
> Members.  Once this has been satisfactorily completed, then we will
> discuss the who's and whats of the Membership Committee.  If you were
> okay with "jfc" running an entire election in such an ad hoc,
> dishevelled manner, I see no reason for you to protest this much needed
> work in progress.  Trust needs to be established and that's what I'm
> doing.
>
> --Sotiris Sotiropoulos
>
>
>
>
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