Re: [atlarge-discuss] Panel, elections and over-delaying maneuvers.

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Jefsey and all,

  I agree with most of your stated concerns and brief history here
Jefsey.  But there are no "Official" panelists as the Panel is defunct.

J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin wrote:

> for weeks, Vittorio and Judyth try to build an image of mine as being in a
> "competition" with Joop for controlling this group and carrying an
> "unilateral" effort to that end. Vittorio's tactics and reasons are now
> well understood.
>
> This has been used to impeach the Panelists from carrying the election as
> they voted it, to incorporate a "safe" structure to own the list and the
> site password, to have positions voted and a Spokesman elected to represent
> us in Rio. This imposed lack of action has been used to pretend the Panel
> was dead, sterilizing the whole icannatalrge.org. The only chance of
> survival for this group being legitimacy of Joop by necessity, this alleged
> competition lead Joop to tactics reducing our chances, to the ALAC's benefit.
>
> After committing to permit me to organize the election we voted, Vittorio
> used this tale to escape without giving the Panel the Members list nor the
> password. Now, Judyth uses it to refuse to give back to the Panel the list
> Vittorio copied to her (I thank Jan to have refused that story).
>
> Feeling both personally hurt and the whole group damaged by Judyth's
> accusations, I asked her to apologize. Her response is the same lecturing
> about my alleged ambitions (I am the only one having committed not to be a
> candidate! :-) and her surrealist repeated demand that both Bruce and me
> ask her the list as Panelists, ... what we keep asking her for weeks.
>
> So, here I publicly ask Judyth and Jan, to send a copy of the Members list
> and of the site password to every Panelist (Eric and Sotiris and other ones
> on the Panelist elect list please to rise hand if you want to join, as it
> is your and our common right. Bruce asked you to do so, as soon as we could
> once Vittorio evnetually officially resigned).
>
> If Judyth/Jan gives back the list to them, the remaining Panelists will be
> able to carry a duty, delaying maneuvers prevented them from carrying for
> so many weeks. They have been elected for it, they have voted it, they want
> to do it (and to retire :-)
>
> The Panel will proceed with dispatch
> - to form an election Committee with Jan and Judyth, and three other called
> watchdogs, provided they are no candidate,
> - to get nominations
> - to have the election we all wait for in using a solution everyone can
> check and trust.
> - to entrust the Member's list to their incorporated secretariat, or to
> each of the Panelists (the new Panel will vote on this), so the current
> list hi-jacking by non-elected people can never happen again.
>
> If Judyth/Jan do not copy the list to us, I will wait for Bruce's return by
> the end of the week, as he asked me, for us to take a joint decision (with
> the other Panelists who would have joined; we may also call on those who
> resigned for advice). Whatever that decision, everyone will then know it
> will not be out any "unilateralism" or "personal agenda" by any of us, but
> due to the sole decision of non elected persons.
>
> In the meanwhile, as a personal position, I want to show my "unilaterism",
> in calling again every of you to respond Joop's poll. Please understand
> this is not an icannatlarge.org vote/poll, BUT it may be the last way for
> us to partly continue this effort. So, even if you do not support Joop's
> options and do not want to join/support his party, PLEASE use his straw
> poll to show we want to survive Vittorio's trap.
>
> I also want to take advantage of this public mail, to call on Joop again,
> for him not to endanger this weak group, using that imposed delays to spoil
> his own image, an image we all need (I know I will upset some, but we need
> to unite, not to fight each others). I commit that before retiring, I will
> propose the new elected Panel to chose a Spokesman, so we may quickly word
> our positions under the control of the Panel, and then of the Membership.
> And from experience dating from years, I will nominate Joop (should he
> commits to be as democrat as he tells us to be :-).
>
> Then I will propose that we support and give a chance to Danny's project
> for SMEs, DPF for sole DN Managers, YJ Park's effort for the WSIS, Abel's
> propositions for an atlarge DNS and mine for dot-root.
>
> All those God knows why strangled things which are ready to develop.
> jfc
>
> This translated into Vittorio committing to Richard he would leave me
> organizing the election, that the Panel voted and then passing the Member
> list and site password to two non-Panelists, preventing this group to get
> an elected Panel, an incorporated body protecting the list and the site, a
> Spokeman and positions statements before Rio.
>
> This translates into Judyth's refusal to share the Member list with Jan,
> Bruce and me (and Eric and Sotiris, Bruce and I accept as a legitimate
> Panelist now we can after the resignation of Vittorio, should they accept
> to confirm or refuse their Panelist status by right).
>
> I have asked Judyth to apologize for that, because it is hurting to me and
> more it is killing this group. I underlined that I did respect her agenda,
> but I could hardly carry any ambition not being a candidate, being fed-up
> by all this and staying in here only because as elected panelists Bruce and
> me, and possibly Eric and Sotiris are the only ones who have been elected
> to carry that job and I committed to Bruce not to fail the Panel (Bruce is
> on the road all the week long).
>
> Judyth has only responded with her stubborn surealist lecturing about my
> "unilateralism" responding to all our demands by "both of you have to ask".
> This probably can go on for ever, so I drop this.
>
> I do not understand her motives. Only
>
> On 20:43 21/03/03, espresso@e-scape.net said:
>
> > >From NewsScan Daily http://www.newsscan.com
> >
> >NEW ICANN CHIEF TO CONTINUE POLICY FOCUS
> >Succeeding Stuart Lynn as CEO of the often-controversial Internet
> >Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN), in-coming chief
> >Paul
> >Twomey says that in addition to focusing on technical coordination, the
> >organization will also have to continue its efforts to deal with the
> >policy
> >issues such as intellectual property, privacy, and law enforcement:
> >"The
> >consequences of those technical issues flow into other arenas, like
> >intellectual property, consumer protection, and privacy, potentially
> >even
> >into commercial relationships between infrastructure providers. The law
> >enforcement issues are potentially issues like identification for Whois
> >databases (which list information on domain name owners),
> >identification of
> >those people who are committing computer crimes, (and) ensuring that
> >financial scams don't take place on the Internet." Twomey, an
> >Australian,
> >has been a consultant and government bureaucrat. (CNet News.com 19 Mar
> >2003)
> >http://news.com.com/2100-1028-993390.html
> >
> >
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> >Judyth Mermelstein     "cogito ergo lego ergo cogito..."
> >Montreal, QC           <espresso@e-scape.net>
> >##########################################################
> >"A word to the wise is sufficient. For others, use more."
> >"Un mot suffit aux sages; pour les autres, il en faut plus."
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> >
> >
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Regards,

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Jeffrey A. Williams
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