Re: [atlarge-discuss] How are Committee Chairs (or members) to be appointed?

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Ron and all fellow members,

  Your understanding is correct.  However were was such a
process voted upon by the members?

Ron Sherwood wrote:

> Dear Richard, and all who are interested in the group now known as the
> Provisional Membership Committee:
>
> It is my understanding that those members who applied to join the
> Provisional Membership Committee, by responding to Sotiris' call for such
> volunteers, would be in place by 00:00Zulu on Saturday morning.  At that
> time the committee should select a chairperson and immediately undertake the
> task of verifying every elected panelist.  They should do this by satisfying
> themselves that the Panelist meets, or has met, the three criteria required
> before the Panel may be seated.
>
> 1) verification that the person exists and is who they represent themselves
> to be.
> 2) verification that the person is willing to serve.
> 3) verification that the person has presented his / her credentials to the
> membership and posted an introduction on the discuss list.
>
> They may use any means at their disposal to do this work, including, but not
> limited to, Joey Borda's previous verification methods, Sotiris Sotiropoulos
> verification methods, personal verification by other verified members, etc.
> They will present their findings to the membership by posting to discuss
> list (and other official sites).
>
> If, by 00:00Zulu on Sunday morning, one week from the close of the election,
> any elected Panelists have not met these three requirements, they will
> automatically disqualify themselves.
>
> At that point, if there are less than 11 Panelists verified, the number will
> be made up by the next highest vote-getters who do meet these three
> criteria.
>
> When 11 Panelist have been verified according to the above requirements.
> The Panel will be seated and take office.
>
> At that time the Provisional Membership Committee will have completed its
> task and the Panel is free to determine its future. The Panel may choose to
> ratify the committee as the Membership Committee and task it with committee
> member verification, membership verification, the formulation of privacy
> policy, or any other similar membership related task.  It may place a time
> limit on the committee, or it may disband the committee altogether or poll
> the membership on the options.
>
> I repeat, this is my understanding of what is expected of this group of
> volunteers.
>
> Ron Sherwood
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard Henderson" <richardhenderson@ntlworld.com>
> To: <abel@able-towers.com>; "'Atlarge Discuss List'"
> <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 6:53 PM
> Subject: [atlarge-discuss] How are Committee Chairs (or members) to be
> appointed?
>
> > Abel wrote:
> >
> > >Motion to instigate a verification committee:
> > >
> > >Upon acceptance of this motion the panel proposes:
> > >
> > >to propose to the membership to request Joey Borda to chair a committee
> > >for the time of 6 months, consisting of at least 5 but no more then 7
> > >members
> > >
> > >snip
> > >
> > >Motion was tabled by Abel and seconded by Hugh
> >
> > A little definition needed here... Are you saying that the Panel will
> > propose *ONE* recommended individual as Chair of the committee?
> >
> > And the membership are to "request" Joey (or whoever) chairs the
> > committee... By what process is the Membership to *request* this?
> >
> > Will there be a Membership-wide e-mail vote (as for panel members)? Will
> the
> > vote be via the Polling Booth? Will the vote simply be a straw poll on
> this
> > mailing list?
> >
> > And if Members are to vote on this, what process will exist to propose
> > alternative 'candidates'?
> >
> > I'm asking these questions, not out of negativity, but because we need to
> > define *clear processes* before the Panel can go ahead with this Motion. I
> > mean : you can't vote in an informed way unless you first define how the
> > process will take place.
> >
> > And I suggest that the definition of process is important, not only with
> > reference to this single committee, but because we need to establish
> > procedure for the establishment of *all* committees.
> >
> > I suggest that the membership needs to be involved in the discussion about
> > (a) what committees we need (so you don't get overlap); (b) who has the
> > mandate to appoint the Committee Chairs; (c) what voting process should be
> > used to vote for these Chairs; (d) will the Membership only be 'given' one
> > candidate or will the vote be between all candidates that the Membership
> > nominates and seconds; (e) and will the other members of the Committees
> also
> > be appointed, and if so, by whom, and how?
> >
> > As you can see, the motion you have proposed will only make sense (and be
> > worth voting on) if there is first an established and agreed process
> through
> > which the motion could be carried out.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > Richard H
> >
> >
> >
> >
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