Re: [atlarge-discuss] DNSO-GA arguments belong elsewhere!

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Todd and all stakeholders or interested parties,

todd glassey wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeff Williams" <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>
> To: <eric@hi-tek.com>
> Cc: "Bruce Young" <Bruce@barelyadequate.info>; "At-Large Discussion List"
> <atlarge-discuss@lists.fitug.de>
> Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2002 4:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [atlarge-discuss] DNSO-GA arguments belong elsewhere!
>
> > Eric and all stakeholders or interested parties,
> >
> > eric@hi-tek.com wrote:
> >
> > > May we hold a few truths to be self evident?
> > >
> > > The Internet must be not restricted yet governed.  Not by fiat or
> > > proclamation.  But by the will of the users.
> >
> >   I would add:  "and only by the stakeholders/users"...
>
> there are no organizations that actually represent the users of the Internet
> that I know of, only those doing business on the Internet and those
> expending money for Internet Resources.

  Well we do.  So that is at least one.  Hence I am puzzled that
you would make this statement as you can imagine given your
private posts to me earlier, Todd...  As I understand it, you are
also awaiting membership information for yourself in the IDNO
as well.  Aren't they supposed to represent users to an extent?
Aren't some if not many users also domain name holders/owners
as well Todd?  And aren't some of those stakeholders/usres
members of various other well publicized organizations
such as CDT?  I believe that some are.

>
>
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Any matter that interferes with Access, Reliability and Stability is to
> be
> > > avoided.
> >
> >   I would add: "or as otherwise specified for specific penelities can be
> > inforced and/or otherwise imposed"   than list those specific instances...
> > Bla bla bla, ect. ect, Example, example... and so forth
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Innovation and alternative solutions are to be supported and
> incorporated into
> > > the community of the Internet.
> >
> >   Good sugestion here..
>
> As to what deliverable though?

  The deliverable(s) could be many and varied or only a few as well as
yet to be determined and in the future.

> Is this forum to be qualified as competent
> for designing and if so for what?

  As competent as any, yes.  Others opinion of course may vary.  Does
yours Todd?

>
>
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > There are problems so we must embrace solutions.
> > >
> > > There is a community of Internet users and we are responsible to one
> another.
> > >
> > > As members of the users of the Internet we must endeavour to act in the
> > > interests of other users.
> > >
> > > Perhaps not?
> > >
> > > Eric
> > >
> > > Bruce Young wrote:
> > >
> > > > Over the last to days the conversation in this forum has been heavily
> > > > dominiated by conversations regarding disagreements in the DNSO-GA.
> I, not
> > > > being a member of that body, have no intention of taking sides on
> these
> > > > issue, except to state that this is probably not the correct form for
> > > > carrying out these conversations.
> > > >
> > > > Might I suggest that, rather than using up this forum's bandwidth on
> what's
> > > > wrong with the DNSO-GA , we instead turn the conversation back to
> building
> > > > the At Large?
> > > >
> > > > Bruce Young
> > > > Portland, Oregon
> > > > Bruce@barelyadequate.info
> > > > http://www.barelyadequate.info
> > > > --------------------------------------------
> > > > Support democratic control of the Internet!
> > > > Go to http://www.icannatlarge.com and Join ICANN At Large!
> > > >
> > >
>   ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: atlarge-discuss-unsubscribe@lists.fitug.de
> > > > For additional commands, e-mail: atlarge-discuss-help@lists.fitug.de
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: atlarge-discuss-unsubscribe@lists.fitug.de
> > > For additional commands, e-mail: atlarge-discuss-help@lists.fitug.de
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > --
> > Jeffrey A. Williams
> > Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 124k members/stakeholders strong!)
> > CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
> > Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
> > E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
> > Contact Number:  972-244-3801 or 214-244-4827
> > Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: atlarge-discuss-unsubscribe@lists.fitug.de
> > For additional commands, e-mail: atlarge-discuss-help@lists.fitug.de
> >
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe, e-mail: atlarge-discuss-unsubscribe@lists.fitug.de
> For additional commands, e-mail: atlarge-discuss-help@lists.fitug.de

Regards,

--
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 124k members/stakeholders strong!)
CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
Contact Number:  972-244-3801 or 214-244-4827
Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208



---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe, e-mail: atlarge-discuss-unsubscribe@lists.fitug.de
For additional commands, e-mail: atlarge-discuss-help@lists.fitug.de