Re: [atlarge-discuss] Re: [Outreach] Re: [atlarge-discuss]WG-OUTREACH 004 - E-mail group and administrivia

[espresso@e-scape.net]

At 19:14 -0700 2002/10/22, Jeff Williams wrote:
>  Where are the archives and how do other future participants
>subscribe? icann-at-large.org is not our official Website and
>to my knowledge we have yet to determine anyone as secretariat
>of the WG-Outreach...

Just to set the record straight, Jeff's *own* first message to the Outreach list set up by Jefsey (using Mailman, which does have archiving ability) included the following in the message header (as do all Mailman lists unless you tell them to do otherwise):

>List-Help: <mailto:Outreach-request@icann-at-large.org?subject=help>
>List-Post: <mailto:Outreach@icann-at-large.org>
>List-Subscribe: <http://icann-at-large.org/mailman/listinfo/outreach_icann-at-large.org>,
>	<mailto:Outreach-request@icann-at-large.org?subject=subscribe>
>List-Id: <outreach_icann-at-large.org.icann-at-large.org>
>List-Unsubscribe: <http://icann-at-large.org/mailman/listinfo/outreach_icann-at-large.org>,
>	<mailto:Outreach-request@icann-at-large.org?subject=unsubscribe>
>List-Archive: <http://icann-at-large.org/pipermail/outreach_icann-at-large.org/>

An invitation has gone out to the membership asking those interested to subscribe. A number of postings from the [atlarge-discuss] relating to outreach questions have already been archived, as well as messages posted to the [Outreach] list directly.

>  This seems to be a bit messed up Jefsey...  Bad idea...???

Only insofar as it seems not to have stopped your endless insistence that the mailing list must be run from the same server as the Web site. Since delivery is by e-mail, browser and connection problems over "too many redirects" should not arise, especially since we're not talking about multiple redirects to get from the main site to the list subscription page.

Personally, I'm grateful to Jefsey for taking the initiative and offering to host the list for us. Note, too, that he has set up lists for WG-DNS and WG-Web which people can also join via http://icann-at-large.org/mailman/listinfo/
and would probably be kind enough to do the same for any other WG that requests it.

As for the Secretariat question, secretarial duties are usually the very last thing anyone wants to do so I offered to do it myself. With over 30 years' experience on various committees and boards, I'm pretty much used to the need for somebody to do the scutwork. 

Of course, if you like, we can have an election within the WG-Outreach to see who gets to do it ... especially if you'd care to volunteer your own services. But, given that archiving is now automated and anyone who likes can read the postings, subscribe and participate in WG-Outreach, I expect the role of "Secretariat" will come down to answering the usual "how do I subscribe" questions and drafting periodic summaries of the discussion which will be approved by the WG before being published to the world.

However, given your own expressed interests, perhaps you'd like to set up a WG-Criticism where people can get together and criticize everyone and everything else if they like.

Meanwhile, please note that since everyone on WG-Outreach is also receiving this general discussion list, there is no need to "cc" the Outreach list when you post to this one. Those of us who have limited connection time and disk space would really appreciate not getting unnecessary duplicates since the traffic here is already pretty high.

Regards,

Judyth

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>J-F C. (Jefsey) Morfin wrote:
>
>> Dear Richard,
>> the site http://icann-at-large.org has been opened.
>> the mailing list outreach@icann-at-large.org has been created withthe
>> following members.
>>
[snip]
>>
>> you do what you want with it.
>> jfc

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