Re: [atlarge-discuss] Re: WG-DNS name protection

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Judyth and all stakeholders or other interested parties and members,

espresso@e-scape.net wrote:

> At 12:52 -0700 2002/10/18, Jeff Williams wrote:
> >  Where might such a place like you mention, be Judyth?  I would like to >move there if it actually exists!  But of course this is just BS isn't it?
> >Nice try Judyth, no cigar though...
>
> Try heading north of the 49th parallel. Lots of your fellow-Americans do!

  I have many times.

>
> No BS -- "peace, order, and (sorta) good government" if you disregard the graft that politicians do everywhere.

  Now you getting it Judyth.  Yes Politicians, that is professional ones,
are far too often involved in graft and/or corruption, which was in part
one of my points a few days ago on this very thread to which you
strongly disagreed with in several of your replies.  I don't care
what country professional politicians reside in, represent, or
practice their trade in, most are to one degree corrupt to one
degree or another.  Even Gandhi was, and admitted it.

> Low crime, public schools hurting for money don't need to spend it on armed guards and security cameras, and you can walk anywhere but a handful of streets in the whole country at any hour of day or night. (Heck, we even know how to count ballots!)

  Neither do we in most cities here in Texas.  Thank god!

>
>
> Yes, taxes *are* higher here but we get well-lighted streets, decent education, and better, more accessible health care for it.

  We do here in Texas as well.  Our schools overall in the US are rated
7th in the country I believe.  Our health care (Medicare especially now)
is excellent.  Our health care costs, although we do not have socialized
medical health care, is amongst the best in the world, here in Texas and
in Cancer treatment it is considered the best in the world.

> Yes, our social safety net is rather strained thanks to incessant pressure from south of the border. But no, we haven't exchanged the rule of law for the "right" to settle our differences with bullets, and we don't intend to.

  Neither have we here in Texas.  Sure, we do have the right to carry a
handgun in Texas, and some Texas do.  I don't, but I did at one time.
As I do volunteer police work one day a month if I am in the state,
I than of course carry a hand gun.  Yet violent crime in Texas
is down for the forth year in a row, and at a now all time low,
and in the US nationally violent crime is down significantly.
Yet I still love Canada also as I have many good friends there
especially in the Toronto area,  northern Saskatchewan,
and in Western Canada.  I like visiting up there in the summer
months.  Too dam cold for me in the winter though...

>
>
> >Good citizenship requires good healthy knowledge of the truth, not
> >wishful thinking.  This is of course not ever to say that
> >wishful thinking is not useful as part of good citizenship, it is.
> >But dealing with reality is a far more important element of good >citizenship...
>
> Indeed it is. Democracy functions well only when the citizenry is well-informed and can vote rationally on the issues.

  One persons idea of rationality is an others insanity.  Go figure!  >;)  But
keeping ones self informed should be important.  I take it pretty
seriously myself.

> That's one reason it's important that all citizens be as well-educated, as aware of their civic responsibilities, and as able to access information as possible.

  Very much agreed.  And thankfully I am both well educated and
well informed.  Hence why I amongst almost all of our [INEGroup]
members are against Censorship.

> It's also one reason we Canadians place such emphasis on issues like Internet access for all, citizen participation in public hearings and online consultations, involvement in intergovernmental bodies, and the pursuit of social justice at home and abroad.

  Very much agreed here as well Judyth.  And again a precept of our [INEGroup]
charter.

>
>
> Maintaining democracy is *hard work*, as the signers of the U.S. Declaration of Independence knew.

  Yes they sure did!  And as one person that swore an oath to that very
constitution and fought, bled and nearly died defending it, I believe I can
more than adequately identify with those founding fathers of our great
nation and with Sam Houston as well for the great state of Texas.

> It's not just hard on elected representatives and appointees but also on the citizenry which must be vigilant to keep them honest and responsive.

  Also very much agreed here as well.  I consider it a duty, and some our
more obscure laws, that are rarely enforced, require each citizen to
be vigilant.

>
>
> Different states seem to foster this approach to different degrees. I apologize for the cheap shot at Texas -- Lord knows it applies every bit as much to Florida (where I have family, too) and other states -- but you can consider us up here in Canada as a sort of extra-large, extra-snowy version of Vermont [;-)] where there never were any gunslingers and there's a strong tradition of rational argument in and out of the courts.

Florida right now is going through some very huge changes that should have
been done long ago.  Indeed Florida, where I have relatives and own
property, has huge electorate problems that need fixing badly.  They
will be fixed properly!  But there hasn't been any gunslingers in Texas
for many many years.  I had to laugh out loud when I first read you
reference to such...  >;)

>
>
> Maybe that's why I tend to grow impatient when people make ill-informed comments or try to reduce democracy to mudslinging in environments like this.

  I have never done any mudslinging Judyth!  I resent the implication
as well as I  also do from Chris, Michael, and sometimes Ron...  Be that
as it may I still recognize that such yammerings, are part of the
territory and except them as such.

>
>
> Regards,
>
> Judyth
>
> ===
>
> Extract from a review of Michael Moore's film "Bowling for Columbine"
> by Russell Mokhiber and Robert Weissman
> <http://lists.essential.org/pipermail/corp-focus/>
>
> >[snip]
> >In one scene, Moore, a lifetime member of the National Rifle
> >Association, goes to door to door in Toronto, Canada, doesn't knock, and
> >just walks in.
> >
> >Apparently, in Canada, many people don't lock their doors.
> >
> >This in a country, Canada, where there are 7 million guns for a
> >population of 33 million.
> >
> >But in Canada there are fewer than 400 gun deaths a year.
> >
> >In the United States, we hit 400 in two weeks -- that's 11,000 gun
> >deaths a year.
> >
> >In the U.S., eight children under the age of 18 are killed by guns in
> >America every day.
> >
> >Moore raises a disturbing question: if it's just the guns, stupid, then
> >how come Canadians are not slaughtering themselves the way we are
> >slaughtering ourselves?
> >[snip]
>
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> Montreal, QC           <espresso@e-scape.net>
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