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[atlarge-discuss] JEFF WILLIAMS FAN CLUB - COME ONE COME ALL Re: [atlarge-discuss]Jeff Williams is really Jeff Holt
You people never stop. The speculation is endless. The amount of time
people have wasted their time in the great hunt of Jeff Williams is mind
boggling to me. Don't you think you'd have more fun masturbating. It
certainly would be a productive use of your time - if not at least more
enjoyable.
I can not honestly believe that an at large group can waste so much time
on this speculation. We here about icann - not the continued worship and
exhultation of jeff williams.
Incidentally jeff is my press agent. And I'm proud of that. Anyone who
can keep the net mystified - for what - almost 8 or more years is a
genius. And he does not eve try that - hard - it's people like you that
have created the JEFF WILLIAMS LEGEND.
I hope you can live with that ;) Maybe someday you can come down and
visit Jeff and I in Grapvine Texas.
cheers
joe
Joe Baptista - only at www.baptista.god
"They do not even have control over themselves! Do not believe them!"
... Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf former Iraqi Information Minister
On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Albert Brickel wrote:
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> MAILER-DAEMON@lists.kettenhemdhuehner.de wrote:
> Jeff Williams has been revealed!
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>
>
> It has been determined that Jeff Holt of Grapeland, TX, is Jeff Williams of
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> Grapevine, TX.
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> Follow these threads and see,
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> http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0306/msg01277.html
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> http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0306/msg01317.html
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> http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0306/msg01319.html
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> http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0306/msg01322.html
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> http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0306/msg01325.html
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> http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0306/msg01344.html
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> http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0306/msg01392.html
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> http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0306/msg01478.html
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> http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0306/msg01513.html
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> http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0306/msg01517.html <<<
> http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0306/msg01574.html
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> http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0306/msg01582.html
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> http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0306/msg01585.html
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> http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0306/msg01607.html
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>
>
>
>
> Scroll to the bottom of the list for Jeff Williams lies and antics in 2003.
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>
>
> In response to the following rants from Jeff (Zombie-Kook) Williams find below
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> some appropriate information:
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>
>
> FROM: Jason Watkins
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> DATE: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 10:51:22 -0700 (PDT)
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> TO: [atlarge-discuss] Reminder: Jeff Williams
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> is mentally Ill
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>
>
>
> Just a reminder and a repost of the Jeff Williams FAQ. I see that Jeff Williams
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> has been writing not as an individual, but in the plural again. Using phrases
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> like "At such time as we [INEGroup] have done a complete review" This is just a
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> reminder that INEG group does not exist, that Jeff Williams is not to be taken
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> seriously, and that he speaks only for himself and not for a group of over
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> 100,000 people. Frankly it is sad, and I wish he would get help. Regular
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> readers will ignore his inane ramblings, but new readers may be tricked into
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> replying. Among the "nutsy-cukoo" things he has said in the last few weeks are:
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> That he met personally with President George Bush in Waco Texas and that he is
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> having secret email conversations with government officials. Here is the rest of
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> the FAQ:
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> Jeff Williams' FAQ. (99/01)
>
> -- 1. Who is Jeff Williams? Jeffrey A. Williams, has claimed in postings to
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> various lists:
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> -- to be the Chief Executive Officer and the Co-Founder of the 4.8 billion
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> dollar privately held employee owned INEG. INC
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> -- to be the Director of Internet Network Engineering and Senior Java/CORBA
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> Engineer for the Information Network Engineering Group, INEG INC.
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> -- to be an ex-IBM Fellow,
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> -- to have to have graduated from UTD and to have a law degree from SMU Law
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> School
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> -- to have three degrees, MBA, Masters in Computer Science and Engineering, and
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> Law
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> -- to have served as a judge for 7 years
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> -- to be a member of the IETF -- to serve on several medium sized business
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> boards and on the boards of several banks
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> -- to be the author of two books and is working on a third
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> -- to own 3 ISPs, including Frisco net, Deltanet and Wiltel, with 1.6 million
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> users
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> -- to have been a fighter pilot with USMC, flying missions in Chile and for the
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> DEA, as a reserve pilot in the USMC, stationed out of Grand Prairie air station
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> just south of Dallas
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> -- to have been acting squadron commander of the Marine combat F4 squadron
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> VMF214 (Black Sheep) at Tan Son Nhut during the Viet Nam war
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> -- to have spent several years in NIS (Naval Investigative Service)
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> -- Graduate of Naval Staff & War College
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> -- Retired Colonel, United States Marine Corps -- to own 8% of eBay
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>
>
> However,
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> -- Jeff's 'INEG. INC' does not exist except as a fantasy in Jeff Williams' mind.
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> -- Jeff changed the name of the company in his .sig, in Jan 1998, from
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> 'Information Eng. Group' to Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC., when the
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> real Information Engineering Group , became aware
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> of Jeff's use of their name.
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> -- SMU Law School Registrar's office, (214) 768-2618, disclaims all knowledge of
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> Jeff. Jeffrey A. Williams is a fake and an imposter.
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> -- 2. Why should I take care in sending private email to Jeff Williams? He may
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> post it to the list. Ironically, in his postings of others' private email so far
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> the content has been counter-productive to his reputation and credibility. You
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> should presume any email to him will posted to the list.
>
> -- 3. Is there other material available on Jeff Williams?
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> http://www.gtld-mou.org/gtld-discuss/mail-archive/03504.html
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> http://www.gtld-mou.org/gtld-discuss/mail-archive/05347.html
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> http://www.gtld-mou.org/gtld-discuss/mail-archive/05398.html
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> http://www.gtld-mou.org/gtld-discuss/mail-archive/05525.html
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> http://www.gtld-mou.org/gtld-discuss/mail-archive/08015.html
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>
>
> Please find below some additional claims he has made in 2002, regarding his
>
> exploits:
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> 1. worked at CMA (an IT consulting firm) developing management principals (his
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> spelling not mine)
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> 2. worked for the United States government on a program called Krypto (must be
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> top secret because a Google search reveals only that it was the dog companion of
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> Superboy)
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> 3. worked for Systems Administration, Networking, and Security Institute
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> (sans.org) on BIND security
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> 4. worked for the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) in Public Key
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> Infrastructure (PKI)
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> 5. worked for the Vietnam Veterans Association
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> 6. worked for the Dallas Businessmen's Association (a Google search revealed no
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> such organization)
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> 7. worked for the United States Department of Defense as a project coordinator
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> on the Advanced Research Projects Agency Network (ARPANET)
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> 8. worked for the World Trade Organization on General Agreement on Tariffs and
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> Trade (GATT)
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> 9. worked on the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA)
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> 10. attended the Economic Summit meeting held by President George. W. Bush in
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> Waco, TX, in August, 2002
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> 11. worked for the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) for six (6) years on
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> Internet Protocol Version 6
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> 12. flew F-4, F-14, F-18 jets for the United States Marine Corps but is now
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> retired
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> 13. is a private pilot
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> 14. to have served as a county judge for 1 year 8 months
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> 15. has a law degree and specializes in trademark, business, and antitrust law
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> 16. given award as "Outstanding Texan" by Texas Chamber of Commerce in 1998
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> (Google search reveals Chamber of Commerce are by city only; there is no Texas
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> State Chamber of Commerce)
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> 16. performs volunteer police work (and carries a gun!) once a month in the
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> state of Texas
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> 17. claims membership in both Texas State Republican Party and Texas State
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> Democratic Party Caucuses
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> 18. his family has six attorneys on retainer, two for him, two for his elderly
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> parents, and one each for his daughters
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> 19. teaches speed reading and basic reading courses to underprivileged children
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> and adults (where does he find the time to do all this and still rant online?)
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> 20. claims to have US$4555 in a trust account held for icannatlarge.org but
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> will not reveal name of bank nor provide any proof of account (and says that he
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> can raise US$100K more with little effort)
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> 21. is working with Richard Clark, Chairman of the U.S. Critical Infrastructure
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> Protection Board (Cybersecurity Czar) and Andrew Card, Chief of Staff of U.S.
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> President Geo. W. Bush Whitehouse Administration, on cyber security issues
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> 22. has over 23 years experience starting up companies including non-profit
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> corporations
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> 23. intimidated and threatened to report a fellow member of ICANNatLarge.org to
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> the U.S. Homeland Security Department and the F.B.I. for making a comment about
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> President Bush (he claims to be on speaking terms with department managements)
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>
>
> The above items are directly from his OWN statements:
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> http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0207/msg00457.html
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> http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0208/msg00619.html
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> http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0208/msg00657.html
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> http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0209/msg00584.html
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> http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0210/msg00641.html
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> http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0210/msg00654.html
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> http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0210/msg00675.html
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> http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0210/msg01053.html
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> http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0211/msg00106.html
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> http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0211/msg00200.html
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> http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0211/msg00303.html
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> http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0211/msg00313.html
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> http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0211/msg00410.html
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> http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga-full/Arc11/msg02724.html
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> Some other sources for the "real" Jeff Williams:
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> http://www.angelfire.com/clone/jeffwilliams/
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>
>
> Please find below some additional claims he has made in 2003, regarding his
>
> exploits:
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> 1. alleges to be in the United States Government Federal Registry but a federal
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> registry does not exist; although there is a Federal Register it has no
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> association with any Jeff Williams persona regarding related fields or topics
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> near what the Zombi/Kook rants (find out for yourself at
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> http://www.access.gpo.gov/su_docs/aces/aces140.html)
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> see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0301/msg00258.
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> 2. claims to be a wireless internet provider for China although his fictitious
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> company is not remotely connected with ISP and there is no reference anywhere
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> through Google that mentions INEG and China in the same search except for
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> postings by Jeff Williams (which means he references himself as proof he exists)
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> see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0303/msg00242.html
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> 3. seems to have attracted another 2 thousand fictitious members to his fake
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> corporation (from 127k to 129k) as stated by his signature
>
> see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0303/msg00242.html
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> 4. accused a fellow member of ICANNatLarge.org of cheating the outcome of
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> several internet based elections and when challenged he only made more unfounded
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> accusations and provided no proof
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> see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0302/msg00400.html
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> 5. always talks about members of INEG attending various internet related
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> meetings but nobody ever sees them or speaks with them or even finds anyone
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> wearing an INEG name tag , and Jeff always says "they are too busy to meet with
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> you"
>
> see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0303/msg00247.html
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> 6. claims to be one of the originators of ARPANET
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> see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0303/msg00331.html
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> 7. claims to be an employee of the United States Government and threatened to
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> sue another member as well as inform both U.S. and Canadian authorities of
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> alleged illegal activities (the member was charged by Jeff of supposedly mailing
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> the membership list without authority)
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> see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0304/msg00082.html
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> 8. claims to have over $6700 in funds for ICANNatLarge organization but does
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> not provide proof the money exists
>
> see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0304/msg00192.html
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> 9. claims to be an informant for the Federal Bureau of Investigation (F.B.I.)
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> of the United States Government
>
> see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0304/msg00451.html
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> 10. talks about the openness and transparency of his alleged INEGroup but has
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> never revealed even one member's name and, if pressured, will state that one can
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> get the membership list via a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request by the
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> United States Government law allowing access to records of Federal agencies (but
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> he states that it is available from the FEC which is the Federal Election
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> Commission which has nothing to do with INEGroup members)
>
> see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0304/msg00466.html
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> 11. claims to have over 11K members in INEGroup from mainland China
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> see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0305/msg00068.html
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> 12. says he has never lied!!!
>
> see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0305/msg00435.html
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> 13. seems to have attracted another 2 thousand fictitious members to his fake
>
> corporation (from 197k to 131k) as stated by his signature, so why always 2K at
>
> a time?)
>
> see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0305/msg00570.html
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> 14. claims to be an ex-amature (his spelling not mine) boxer in the United
>
> States Marine Corp (USMC)
>
> see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0305/msg00577.html
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> 15. stated that he had turned in at least two members of the elected Panel of
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> ICANNatlarge.org to the United States Department of Homeland Security and
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> National Infrastructure Protection Center (DHS-NIPC) for alleged fraud
>
> see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0306/msg00394.html
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> 16. has admitted that he is an informant for the NIPC and tapes all telephone
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> calls that he makes to others
>
> see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0306/msg00622.html
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> 17. says he is a partner in several Real Estate Investment Trusts (REIT) in
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> Texas and foreign countries as well as being the owner of a ranch and claims he
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> is listed in the Texas Registry and the Federal Registry (there is no Texas
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> Registry nor Federal Registry)
>
> see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0306/msg01336.html
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> 18. claims to own property in France and made threats against another
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> ICANNatLarge member
>
> see: http://www.fitug.de/atlarge-discuss/0306/msg01635.html
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